So my 30 Tudor showed up Monday night. It didn't come with a windshield frame so I picked one up a nice complete one a couple of weeks ago. My car has the L crossbar that spans the windshield posts but thats it. It has a filled roof but the leading edge is hanging out in space. Meaning that the header above the L bar is missing and there is some BS handmade filler panel suports I think in the way of the hinge....I dunno...I don't see very many if any holes on the windshield hinge lining up with that L bar. I think I need a pic....does the hinge mount horizontal under the L bar? Horizontal on top of the L bar? Vertical behind the L bar? To something else I am missing? How many screw are used? There are lots of holes in the hinge and a couple of slots. Thanks, Dave
Besides the wooden beam that goes across the windscreen opening you need a sort of channel section full width and a filler panel that goes full width but at an angle. Don,t see you mention a sunvisor but thats pretty obvious. Have a look on Ford Barn. The screen goes under the L and under the channel piece.
So it sounds like I'm missing the piece that the hinge actually attaches to? In my case, the custom roof filler metal comes forward and creates the actual visor in one sweep....I'll probably chop it back and replace the missing header panel. Still hoping for pics showing how all this goes together.... Thanks!
Personally didn't know, but searched "model a whindshield hinge" and found this. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=609304&highlight=install+model+windshield+hinge
Yes there is a c channel that runs below the visor that the rear view mirror mounts to. It has vertical holes that the windshield hinge bolts to.
The windshield top hinge is attached with WOOD screws thru the metal header panel, thru the L shaped piece into the WOOD header on an original car. There are hole in all the parts that line up. I can take pics of the parts later today if you need.
CORRECT, also when everything is properly installed, the hinge is "closed" when the gl*** is shut against the A pillars. Meaning the screws go vertically, you have to have the gl*** swung out to put the screws in and when your done the gl*** swings in and you can no longer se the screws/hinge.
Ok this is making more sense but if anyone has a pic that would be great as I will be heading to a Model A bone yard and start looking for the missing parts. So the hinge mounts "closed" when the windshield is closed....If possible I should just like a look at the sandwhich to view the order of the parts in the sandwich. I know what the sheet metal cover looks like that you can see up under the visor...slightly bowed top to match the edge of the roof (or header in this case?). The wood makes sense...its that missing C channel that has me confounded....
What you call a C channel is the bottom edge of the curved metal panel that covers the wood. It,s one piece. Been a while since i had an A tudor but i think thats how it went. So like Charlie66 says, Wood above the L strip, Curved panel gets nailed in against the wood and under the L. Then mount the windscreen in an open position. Rotten job doing it alone if the gl*** is in.
first you need the panel that covers the front of the wooden header (called anel under sunvisor), windsheild hinge gasket (rubber) , a windsheild hinge which slides onto the windsheild frame. once you get the big panel mounted, you can dry fit the hinge to see how it goes. once you have all the pieces it goes together good. helps to have two people doing it. all the parts you need are available from sacramento vintage parts. hope this helps
Take a look at these pics. Yellow is a windshield frame w/ the hinge Green is the metal header cover panel Black is a wood header White represents the metal angle that is attached to the body across the top of the windshied. 3-1 shot looking up with the wood header installed and the visor in place 6-1 shot for the ws frame w /hinge 11-1 shot with "all" kind of fit together. PM me if this is clear as mud for you and I will try to explain.
Correct, except the piece of angle iron in your shot represents the piece already making the opening that is already attached to the car. I did this a year ago. I had to take the visor off any way; so I mounted the top of the hinge to the car separate from the frame and then slip the windshield into the hinge. That will only work if the visor is off though.
BINGO! Got it! Awesome....thanks guys! If I had the sheetmetal header cover it would have made sense...plus now I know where the rear view mirror mounts. I'll check bone yard and if they don't have one I'll order a new one...hey do I need the wood? My roof is filled. I could add something like a 1x2 box tube steel with weld nuts to mount the hinge...or maybe I'm making this harder than it needs to be....
Take a bone yard header cover if you can find on. Check on Fordbarn. Repos leave a LOT to be desired.
Mine had a cover for a coupe when I bought it, nothing fit right. I needed a windshield frame and the Tudor cover. I call Bert's in Denver. Lots of high quality original parts and good prices. I am wanting to sell the Coupe header cover but it wouldn't do you any good.
I have installed new wood but can't get all of the screws to catch in the new wood to tighten up the windshield frame hinge.
am fighting the same install issues and working with parts that came with the car un***embled so a bit in the dark. Apparently there are two different headers (wood) so I am going to look into that. Guess Snyder's has pics in their catalog. My current issue is that the hinge is binding and the ws frame will not close completely.
Vergil.....Your excellent drawing is still helping people (me) visualize how the windshield/header parts fit together......even 7+ years after you posted it! Thanks. My '31 coupe body is at a friend's place right now getting some patch panel work done, but I know at some point I have an issue to deal with on how the windshield parts are in the body now. I do have one question though. The bowed sheet metal cover that goes on the front of the header, just above the windshield hinge....is there any way to get the top row of nails in with the visor installed? That cover seems to be dropped down about 3/4" from really being tucked up tight in the "V" that is formed by the visor and the wood header. Currently, there are no nails in the holes that are about 6" apart(?) going across the top of the panel. (Thanks so much...previous owner) Seems it would take some imagination to get it nailed in to place with the visor there, and I try to avoid re-inventing the wheel, so I'll just ask for a tip from those who might have had the same question or issue. I'm hoping the issues I have don't go deeper than I realize. Thanks! Lynn
I use fender welting, stapled to the front of the header, with the bead running just proud of the wood so when the visor is installed, the welting covers the area and seals the visor.
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