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Hot Rods Falcon 65 Sprint

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by falcon1965, Nov 27, 2019.

  1. falcon1965
    Joined: Dec 7, 2011
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    falcon1965
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    from Ozark Al

    Hi. Been awhile since been up here I have a 65 Ford Falcon Sprint now in my garage with parts all over in boxes. I hate to admit but I'm going retomod to much rust and 289 was dead. Tried to start, got rear end rebuilt with posi-lock new disc brake all around used 69 Maverick in front just basically the mounts bought everything else new, put rear disc out of a merc Gran Marquis bought a new park brake cable took it to work and swagged some new ends on that fit parking brake pads. I put on a borgeson power steering unit and have a summit steering column to cut down. My biggest problem is the booster/master I ordered thru e-bay it was gpsauto2010 and it no way fits unless I remove driver side shock tower and part of the export brace. Any advise? Hope to finish this before I run out of money. or my wife chokes me in my sleep.
     

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  2. 6sally6
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    Think you REALLY need 'power' discs?
    4 wheel disc will stop that lil-old Falcon better than ANYTHING offered when it was new!
    Lose the booster and you'll be golden.....I think.
    6sally6
     
  3. Redrill firewall one inch lower,or one inch to the p***enger sideYou may have to modify under dash bracing to match.One other thought...use a late 60"s-70"s Chrysler master cylinder.They had a flat cap that was bolted on with one center bolt.That might clear the brace.
     
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  4. loveoftiki
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    Loose the booster...no reason for it in that lightweight car..ya got 4 discs on it, should stop better than anything the factory threw on it..how about fixing the rust and building a hot little street car out of it...

    btw I’ve got an opentracker disc front end on mine and drums on the back...car stops absolutely fine...
     
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  5. Exactly what I did with my 69.
    Works great!
    Not quite as simple as just losing the booster though, do a little reading on the Wilwood site.
     
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  6. RmK57
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    Iv'e heard the master/booster from a Geo Metro is the way to go on the early Falcons.
     
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  7. falcon1965
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    Had a friend use Geo on his Mustang blew a line and not enough fluid to get him stopped fast enough. although he wouldn't admit to what speed he was. Thanks guys seems that's the way to go then now just a decision on the 15/26 or 1". Can't believe not many Falcon people down here in LA (lower alabama)
     
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  8. southcross2631
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    Send it back. Get your money back. You can use a Mustang 2 master cyl and not need a booster.
    It cost about 25 bucks at Advance for a new one. It will stop your Falcon just fine. DSCF3524.JPG
     
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  9. dan c
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    just curious--any heat problems from the headers?
     
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  10. WB69
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    I put 4 wheel disc setup without the booster on a Model A sedan. Stops on a dime!! Used a proportioning valve.
     
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  11. gimpyshotrods
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    You can dimple the shock tower there, for clearance.

    Alternately, you can remove the bracket behind the booster, mount it directly on the firewall, and shorten the pushrod.

    Yes, power discs are good. My '60 Falcon has Hydroboosted disc brakes, on all four corners. They are the largest that will fit inside of 15" wheels.
     
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  12. gimpyshotrods
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    Remember kids: It is not how well you think the car stops, it is the value of what you might hit, should you not be able to stop.

    I live in a city full of suicidal pedestrians. You are automatically at-fault if you make contact with one, even if they walked out in front of you, and you had no time to react.

    My neighbors drive, and my dowdy little Falcon shares the roads with, McLaren P1s ($1,150,000.00), Bugatti Chirons ($2,998,000.00), Lamborghini Murcielago SVs ($382,400.00), Ferrari 488s ($256,000.00), and a wide variety of other super and hyper-cars.

    Not only cannot carry enough insurance to cover making contact with one of these cars, should I injure a driver or p***enger, each of these people could financially destroy my family, for the next seven-generations.

    Power discs, all four corners.
     
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  13. Benny B
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    When I did my 63 falcon in the early 90's I used everything from a 74 Mercury comet. Not saying it will work on yours but worth a check it bolted straight to firewall and was a small break booster

    Sent from my QTAXIA1 using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
     
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  14. Fortunateson
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    Better move to a more realistic/old car loving neighbourhood!
     
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  15. gimpyshotrods
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    Not a chance. I can walk to work, the crime rate is low, and my house is nice.

    Disc brakes are cheaper than moving expenses.
     
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  16. Fortunateson
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    Interesting suggestions and I love '65 Sprints but isn't this thread rather non-traditional?
     
  17. gimpyshotrods
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    Rear-ending a million-dollar car is not traditional. I guess hitting pedestrians is, though. So, half-way, I guess?
     
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  18. RmK57
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    I agree. Cut it up and put a straight axle in it then there's plenty of room for a brake booster.:rolleyes:
     
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  19. southcross2631
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    dan-c It is just the angle of the picture .It actually has over an inch of clearance which is plenty for an 1/8th of a mile.
     
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  20. falcon1965
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    Gotta ask what is the cable or line beside your master cyl wrapped in insulation??
     
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  21. BamaMav
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    That's his clutch cable.

    As to your brakes--I built a Maverick, same basic car as a Falcon just newer and heavier, and I used a Maverick disc/drum master cylinder, it stopped fine. But since you have discs on both ends, I'd recommend a master from a 4 wheel disc car just for the extra fluid capacity. The "Corvette style" used on 68-78 Corvettes comes to mind, a lot of the aftermarket kits use them. Wilwood makes great aftermarket masters, they probably have one that is designed to be used without a booster.

    Power brakes are good, but a properly set up manual system will work good.
     
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  22. southcross2631
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    That's right. It's my clutch cable. No room for a conventional clutch linkage.
     
  23. deathrowdave
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    I have had a Comet with power disc brakes in my years of tinkering also . My booster mounted directly to the firewall . My thoughts would be remove the “ bracket “ and move your booster to the firewall . Or toss it and go no boost . In my recent builds it has been hydra boost for me also . Works 100x better .
     

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