Hey guys, need an anawer to a pressing question. I am looking for the Engine Paint Code in PPG (or anyone for that matter) for a 1960 Ford Galaxie 352. I know the block and heads are black, but the valve covers and air cleaner are blue.... but WHAT blue is the question. Thanks in advance for your help with this!
Turquoise (Engine): 1958 - Ford 332//T-bird 332-Export Engine Block, Heads, Intake, Front Cover, Water Pump, Oil Pan 1959-1960 - Ford 352-2v Valve Covers (Need to verify if also used on T-bird Low Compression/Export engines) Ditzler Enamel: DQE-12007 Ford #: M1J-951 Hoop
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Thank Google not moi Engine Black: Engine Block, Heads, Intake, Front Cover, Water Pump, Oil Pan 1958 Ford/T-bird 352 Ditzler Enamel#: DQE-9003 Ford #: M-2824 Engine Black: Engine Block, Heads, Intake, Front Cover, Water Pump, Oil Pan 1959-1960 Ford/T-bird 352 Ditzler Enamel#: DQE-9003 Ford #: M1J-995, M1J-1611, M1J-1616, EP-1724 (Reconditioning Engine Black) Ford listed M-2824 prior to 1985-1959; M1J-995 appears to have been brought out in 1958, and M4J-1611 and M1J-1616 in 1963 as a black for engines, but it's not confirmed if the numbers designated different formulation or gloss levels. Ditzler/PPG listed DQE-9000 as being used 1964-1965, while DQE-9003 was listed as a Ford standard/utility color used 1963 and prior. DQE-9000/9003 appear to be engine gloss/semi-gloss black in comparison to DQE-9123 (see next paragraph). Black (Engine): Valve Covers 1959-1960 T-bird/Lincoln 430 Ditzler Enamel: DQE-9123 Ford #: ? ? Ditzler/PPG noted that Ditzler Enamel# DQE-9123 was a flat black used for Lincoln Continental 430 valve covers 1963-prior (which I think is more of a semi-gloss finish) and as a standard/utility color the period, and that DQE-9000, which was a gloss black, was used on 1964-1965 Lincoln Continentals. It appears to me that Ditzler's number for the paint used on brackets and other underhood items may be DQE-9123, and that the black used on engines and valve covers for the T-bird and Lincoln 430 may be DQE-9003/M4J-995. The Ford M-#'s that coincide with DQE-9003 and DQE-9123 need to be determined. Argent Silver/Aluminum: Engine Accessories, i.e. Power Steering Reservoir Ditzler Enamel: DEE-45 Ford #: M2J-23 This is Ford's standard/utility color used through the '50s and into the '70s/beyond on everything from 1950s full-size front bumper splash pans to '60s trim inserts. This # appears to be from the late 1940s-early 1950's. There is another engine color that appears in Ford literature for Argent Silver, M1J-607, which first shows up in 1956 literature, which may be the color used for 1961-1962 T-bird air cleaners and valve covers. Colonial White: Air Cleaner 1958-1960 T-bird 352 & 430 Ditzler Enamel/Lacquer #: DQE-8103 / DAL-8103 DuPont Stock #/ Duco #: 2214 DuPont Dulux #: 93-59543 Martin Senour Lacquer #: 61T-2542 Martin Seynour Synthol #: 80T-1040 Ford #: M4J-524 Bright Blue (Engine): (Not to be confused with Ford Corporate Blue used '66-'71) 1958 - Ford/T-bird 352-300 hp Engine Block, Heads, Intake, Front Cover, Water Pump, Oil Pan 1959 - Ford/T-bird 352-300 hp Valve Covers Ditzler Enamel/Lacquer #: DQE-11297 / DAL-11297 Ford #: M1J-998 For comparison, the blue used starting in 1966 has a different number: Ford Corporate Blue: Engine, Valve Covers, Air Cleaner 1966 All Engines Ditzler Enamel#: DQE-13358 Ford #: EP-2075 (Reconditioning Engine Blue) Turquoise (Engine): 1958 - Ford 332//T-bird 332-Export Engine Block, Heads, Intake, Front Cover, Water Pump, Oil Pan 1959-1960 - Ford 352-2v Valve Covers (Need to verify if also used on T-bird Low Compression/Export engines) Ditzler Enamel: DQE-12007 Ford #: M1J-951 Goldenrod Yellow: Valve Covers 1960 Ford/T-bird 352-300 hp Ditzler Enamel/Lacquer #: DQE-80653 / DAL-80653 DuPont Stock #/ Duco #: 1939 Martin Senour Lacquer #: 93-58044 Ford #: M2J-358 The Ditzler listings also had a few more yellows for Ford engine colors as follows: Bright Yellow: Valve Covers, Air Cleaner (?) 1964-1965 Comet (need engine application) Ditzler Enamel #: DQE-80301 Ford #: ? ? Yellow: 1963 Comet Valve Covers, Air Cleaner (?) (need engine application); 1964-1965 Ford Trucks w/***mins Diesels Engine Long Block, Valve Covers Ditzler Enamel #: DQE-81196 Ford #: ? ? For comparison, this is for the '60-'63 HiPo engines (NOT for T-bird 390-4v '63-'64) and '65 Ford/T-bird 390-4v: Gold (Engine, HiPo): Valve Covers, Air Cleaner 1960 352-360 hp HiPo, 1961-1962 390 HiPo, 1962-1963 406 HiPo Ditzler Enamel/Lacquer #: DQE-21903 / DAL-21903 Ford #: ? ? (Need Ford's color #) Ditzler/PPG also listed a few more standard/utility colors that may have the following applications needing verification: Black DE-9003 (Noted above, appears to be the black used on engine long blocks 1959-1963) Blue Gray DE-30113 (May be for 1965-late '60s Ford/Thompson PS Pump? Need verification: the Ford/Thompson pumps used a bluish-green color) Silver Gray DE-30120 (Noted above, need more informaton on usage - I don't believe this is the same as Argent Silver, but may be M1A-607 for full-size Ford air cleaners from 1955-1957 and air cleaners/valve covers for '61-'62 Ford/T-bird 390-4v engines?) Green DE-40133 (I doubt this was used on the 'Bird - I think it's for the industrial engines - more info needed on this) Flat Black DE-9123 (Might be the color number Ditzler uses for accessory brackets, etc. - see comments above on Lincoln Continental black engine finishes) Torch Red DQE-70801 (Not used on '58-'60 T-birds that I'm aware of) - this was used on Ford 6-cylinder (?) and 292 Car/Truck air cleaners/valve covers, as well as on Dagenham-procuded diesels)
Hey hoop98 and other folks, when pulling info from somebody's web page, at least provide reference to the page/author, i.e. yours truly, the person who wrote the above: https://www.squarebirds.org/picture_gallery/TechnicalResourceLibrary/TbirdEnginePaintColors.htm The following information was provided to us by Alan H. Tast, AIA Technical Director/Past President, Vintage Thunderbird Club Int'l. Author, "Thunderbird 1955-1966" & "Thunderbird 50 Years". Thank you, Alan!
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