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Folks Of Interest Screws in reverse smoothie wheels?why?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by iwanaflattie, Jan 11, 2020.

  1. Colin HD
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    I like someone got over zealous trying to hold a set of Moon discs on LOL
     
  2. iwanaflattie
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    I was really hoping they fit my van but econolines have the 5 on 4.5 pattern
     
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  3. Dean Lowe
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    Running 5-6 psi we had to run screws in the rims to keep valve stems in the tubes. Went to these chromies 'cause no way in hell was I drilling my Halibrands!
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  4. chevy57dude
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    Don't know how much you paid but those slicks are the better part of the deal IMHO.
     
  5. Hemiman 426
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    Yep, screws used for keeping the slicks from spinning on the wheel. Very common in the late 60's/ 70's. I did that on a cheap set of rims for my 68 Hemi car.
     
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  6. sunbeam
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    It was done with slicks and low air pressure to get a bigger foot print
     
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  7. BLAKE
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    Thank you, thank you!! That's a real pet peeve... folks seem to forget what a 'reversed' wheel really is.
     
  8. big duece
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    Probably 4.5" pattern... don't believe Ford has a 4 1/4" pattern.
     
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  9. DOCTOR SATAN
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    I had some five spokes on my splitwindow vette with tapped holes for screws to hold slicks......
     
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  10. iwanaflattie
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    100.

    Or they are too young to know the difference.
    I edited my ***le.
    I learned a lot last night.
    Thanks

    My bad,edited...will recheck the pattern today
     
  11. big duece
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  12. chevy57dude
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    Yeah, the slicks are worth more than you paid.
     
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  14. iwanaflattie
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    Why is that?
    Arent they too old to be used?
     
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  15. chevy57dude
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    Out of production, rare, and yes, too old. If you were anywhere close I'd give $100 for 'em.
     
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  16. sunbeam
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    Ford 61-67 econoline used 4.5 bolt pattern.
     
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  17. iwanaflattie
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    Yes i edited my mistake.....
    I just recked the pattern.
    4.75
     
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  18. Its to keep the tire from spinning on the rim when you launch.
    What happens a lot is that slicks are run at very low pressure to enhance traction on launch. Running them low makes it easy for them to spin on the rim.
     
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  19. sunbeam
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    Ford never used a 4.75 pattern. Unless some one swapped in Chevy stuff.
     
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  20. Hnstray
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    I seem to recall Ford did use 4.25 x 5 bolt pattern on the OT ‘89 thru ‘95 T-Bird......probably on the Mark VIII Lincoln derivative.

    Ray
     
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  21. iwanaflattie
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    The bolt pattern on the wheels is 4.75..
    The pattern on the econoline IS most likely 4.5.sorry for not specify.
     
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  22. big duece
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    I think those 4.250 were 4 lug
     
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  24. Relic Stew
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    The rear tire has sidewall damage in a spiral pattern, the one in the foreground has visible black lines in the same pattern. Someone was putting enough power through them to wrinkle the sidewalls. The screws were probably necessary, not just for looks.

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  25. Hnstray
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    I believe you are correct, the 4 lug wheels were also 4.25”.......but the t-bird is 5 lug 4.25”

    Ray
     
  26. derbydad276
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    tap the holes use ****on head stainless screws start a new trend
     
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  27. iwanaflattie
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    I want to believe that this set up was used in a bad *** hotrod back in the day
     
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  28. seb fontana
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    All four wheels are by Appliance I think, dimples for hub caps [little "moons"] are on the inside of the lug nut cavity PIC_0944.JPG PIC_0943.JPG ..The wheels with the slicks are standard and probably 5/6" wide. The wheels with out tires are reversed.. Check the distance between the valve stem and where the tire bead starts; the reversed is wider than the standard.. Look at the back side of the wheels with slicks and the wide spot is there..I am inept at photo shop today so can't label pics.:mad: Enclosed is pic of the chrome reverse I bought new from Gratiot Auto Supply around 1972 on my ShoeB. Holding up well for 48 years old..
     
  29. willys36
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    Speaking of buying obsolete slicks, I am eternally grateful to have found these early 60s vintage Pos-A-Traction Inglewood recap slicks. Brand new never used 10x15s which are perfect matches to those used by Ed Roth on the original Mysterion. They are one of the most important contributions to the original look.
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  30. blowby
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    If I was going to use those rims I would mount the tires then just swipe some silver silicone or JB weld over the holes and be done with it. Then again I've never won a car show...
     
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