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  1. Flathead Youngin'
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    putting the generator in the stock location on a flatty? I know offy did....

    like this but in Edelbrock.....

    edit: i've looked at jegs, summit, etc. and only saw the one regular style...
     

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  2. Bruce Lancaster
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    And one other...the "slingshot" two piece very early Edelbrock, now scarce and expensive. Go with a super dual...
     
  3. Flathead Youngin'
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    I have a brand new super dual with the offset genny bracket (probably going to sell for trade off). I can't run my generator in the center and clear the radiator (unless I shove it so far forward that it looks silly) and if I put the offset bracket on, it'll look goofy and the fan won't be centered in the radiator...

    And NO, Petejoe, I won't run a wussy electric fan......:D

    EDIT: I double check the fan in the center but it needs around an extra 3-4"......you know how much value real estate has under the hood of an AV8
     
  4. Bruce Lancaster
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    Would any of the '32-39 generator mounted fans fit in the center? If so, you could make an extra gen into a shortened fan supporter in the center.
     
  5. Bruce Lancaster
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    This is indeed an aesthetic problem--the flathead is very Gothic in its archtecture, and does demand symmetry...
     
  6. dmarv
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    Offenhauser did make different gererator offsets. I'm not sure which one you have, they have one to mount the generator to the passenger side or driver's side. Maybe a different offset would work better. Download a copy of the Offenhauser catalog from the link below. Page 33 shows the generator offset brackets.

    Dan Marvin, Owner
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  7. speedo
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    Does the PM7 allow for a center generator? Anyone know about the Eddie Meyers high rise?
     
  8. dmarv
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    I also forgot to mention that Offenhauser makes a fan carrier bracket that places the fan in the stock location, while you move the generator to the side. Part number is 3499. Which I can get from Offenhauser for you.
     
  9. Bruce Lancaster
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    The right and left generator brackets are very different. They mount to the same places, but one mounts the gen perpendicular to the head, the other mounts it perpendicular to the world, resulting in different placement. The perpendicular to head one was originally to clear the low radiator hoses on '39-41 Fords, and gives very poor belt wrap on the pump drive pulley.
     
  10. Bruce Lancaster
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    That 3499 bracket directly mounts the shaft and hub for a '42-48 fan to the generator mount pad.
     
  11. dmarv
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    What engine, heads, and intake manifold are you using?
     
  12. dmarv
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    Bruce, you are correct once again!
     
  13. Flathead Youngin'
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    i'd love to have a slingshot or a pm7 but my pockets aren't that deep at the moment....:rolleyes:

    my bracket will put the generator on the passenger side and i also have the little aluminum backet to run the fan in the center........i can't run the fan in the center because my 59ab was installed in a 33 sedan and the front pulley was machined off of the crank pulley.......because it was machined off, i pushed the engine farther forward so the breather would clear the fire-wall but that still wasn't enough.....

    here's what i have....
     

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  14. As a side note, there must surely be a tradeoff in performance using a slingshot instead of a super dual?
     
  15. speedo
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    I never head that, why was that? I have a set of edmond heads, and I was looking for an intake, maybe I'll think twice now....

    I think Wildcap makes a sharp intake like the one your looking for, it doesn't show it on the wesite, but I thought that they had or were making one.

    Plus I agree with Bruce, I am running an offset bracket, and well if it weren't under a hood, I would change it, make me shudder when I see it...

    "it does demand symmetry..."
     
  16. Flathead Youngin'
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    because of the distance the fuel has to travel? wouldn't that hold true with a slingshot and pm7 type intake........it's hard to burn valves out of flatheads that are using the tungsten valves.....

    did you burn valves or just hear about it......not disputing YOU but maybe someone had the front carb leaned out real badly.....just curious....the offy and the edmunds seem to be a quick fix for what i'm doing......

    i'd like to see a pic of your fan setup that you converted.....
     
  17. tommy
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    sure did! mine is an early block letter manifold. The later ones had script lettering. I don't know if it still is available.
     
  18. tommy
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    For the front cylinders to lean out you would have to add air to the mixture from a vacuum leak. The mixture ratio wont change just because it travels further. IMHO. My plugs all burn the same.
     
  19. SinisterCustom
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    Thats what I'm thinking too.
    Jeez... I hope the end cylinders on my SBC don't run lean with my tri-power running progressive????:eek: haha
     
  20. 47bob
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    I have a super dual with an offset alternator and had to use two different radiator hoses. Looks like shit. If i had it to do over i'd run a 4 barrel.......................As for lean cylinders; i wouldn't think they would run any leaner than with a stock 2 barrel
     
  21. klazurfer
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    Tommy : " The mixture ratio wont change just because it travels further .. "
    true , but you forgot something : HEAT & THERODYNAMICS ;)
    Klaz
     
  22. dmarv
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    What engine and heads are you running? Offenhauser makes a 45 degree elbow to clear the generator for 1949-1953 engines and heads.

    Dan Marvin, Owner
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  23. tommy
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    Then you better stay away from all those dual quad 283-270, 409-425 Chevys and the Buicks of the same years (I not sure of the CI or HP on them.):D

    I don't seem to remember any epidemic of burnt valves in those engines. They had heat and thermodynamics too...didn't they?:D:D
     
  24. 47bob
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    '47 Ford 59AB
     
  25. klazurfer
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    Tommy : " Then you better stay away from .... " I sure will ! :) Anything made by anyone that had no clue when it came to THERODYNAMICS is out of my book ...:) ...Just kidding ;) .... I think ..:confused:
    Klaz:)
     

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  26. speedo
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    dmarv, I don't think I've ever seen that 45 degree bend outlet your talking about. Do you have any pictures? I have the same problem with the 2 different hoses and it looks like shit, too. I had to run one of the krinkle hoses for now because every other hose I tried to use kept having to sharp of a bend and I was afraid of it colapsing

    skidmarks, I'd like to see your setup too, sounds kinda nice.
     
  27. speedo
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    dmarv...your inbox is full...I got your PM and bump back up for pictures of skidmarks setup...
     
  28. Flathead Youngin'
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    tommy, do you know what # that intake is?

    edit: wait, that's an 8ba style.....weren't the gennerators a bit shorter on them?

    do you know the 59ab #

     
  29. zgears
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    a couple shots of my Edelbrock regular
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