Moonshiners' Hot Rod Fuel! (DIY Gas)

well considering i spend about 4000 a year on fuel i dont mind a little extra work for the benefits.

way cheap, could even be free, alcohol.
way better performance.
stickin it to The Man!

and if youre a tree hugger, its easier on the enviroment.

anyone know anything about that fat tax credit for it? if ya managed to make it for close to nothing it might even turn a profit. a small one if that, but thats somethin.

 

ya i hear ya there god damn gas prices : what are they doing supporting the war fund?

 

The only ones makin out on home stills for ethanol are the ones selling the plans and stills. Calculate the mileage of your ride, pro rate the cost over the month, then figure out how long or how many miles you need to drive to pay for it twice ( once to get your $ back and then the savings/profit). I think I had to go 2 years at the current rates with an average across the board of 18.5 mpg. Not worth it IMO.

 

Order this book http://www.lindsaybks.com/dgjp/djgbk/still/index.html it'll tell you all you need to know.

Bill

 

AS been said, Alcohol will also dry out your gaskets and rubber lines horribly if they are of any age at all. Watch for leaks! If you really want to convert over, just do a search for Puller Tractors, and youll find the skinny on doing the conversions w/o the JEGS catalog as mandatory fodder (the home shop/back yard how-to).

 

"i thought alcohol boiled at 150'F some site said 170'F hmmm?.."

If you hold it at 32 degrees you can remove the water (ice) and have the alcohol left.
r

 

remove the ice, i didnt even think of that way to do it..were probalbly gonna kick our selves in the *** in a few years after gas runs up to about $5-7 a gallon for not maybe doing something about it now i guess well see in the future..rubber seals can be changes out with a better seal that is made for alcohol...fuel gettin p***ed the rings has got me worried..for sitting

 

I looked into this briefly once, and I think that while you're brewing you need the hold the temperature damn near perfect to get a high percentage 90%-ish when you're done, and to do that you need a temperature controled valve thats a several hundered dollars. If you try to control the temperature by yourself the most you can hope for is about 60% alcohol. I've never tried this, just read it.

And running on alcohol does not have "huge" benefits like some of you are saying. If you take a gasoline engine, and put on alcohol carb on there, you will have LESS horsepower and WORSE gas mileage. To make the same power you need to raise the compression ratio and take advantage of ethanols resistance to detonation. JohnnyFast is right on the money.

Ethanol also eats aluminum, JB Weld, un-stainless steel(I think) and a bunch of other stuff.

 

If all you're doing is reading then you needa try it. Don't do **** else to a car, especially if it has EFI, but if it's carbed, still, try it.. give it some pure ethonol. I've tried both kinds of alcohol in cars and many different kinds. The results are always the same even in engines with less than impressive compression. It always cuts the mileage in half or close, it always increases the horsepower dramatically, and always increases the throttle response. I can't say I ever noticed an engine run cooler or hotter.

I'm speaking strickly by experience here. I know a lotta fellas know their **** about nitro and all that, I've never ****ed with it. Me, I've used alcohol a lot but I'm not scientist, I can just tell you what I experienced.

 

Oh the freezing trick sounds awesome except one problem, the alcohol would have to already be separate from the other fluids but they won't be. Try freezing a beer at 32F. What you'll get is slush because the alcohol is saturated throughout the beer. You boil it because that's the only way to separate it.

please, as with everything in this thread, correct me if I'm wrong and explain.

 

all im doing is some reading research but im thinking of getting a couple gallons of alcohol and pigtail a line to the fuel pump on one and to the carb on another just to see just what the heck is going on with the onboard computer thru the efi one..i can fatting the injector pulses (on chip if needed) and do some preliminary ooohs and aaaahs just for ****s and grins

 

holding the temp is hard at first. you can get a eletric cotrol vavle but there pricy makes it easy. my family farm been in my family 220+ years,and a still been there as long. not for cash but for self efficency wasn't always a walmart neer by. now were usin it for fuel we figured 30cents a gallon but we get free natural gas for heat and al ready grow corn. plus 600 acers to play on. not counting our time at five gallons an hour thats saving us 13 bucks i dont use it much don't lve there anymore but when im home i fill up!

 

Ask Anyone That Has Worked Overseas In An Arab Country, How To
Make Alcohol, In Big Supply.sugar,yeast, And A Big Still, 100 Gallon.best Stills Are Made From Stainless,not Copper.
Deuceman Ab