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Technical King Pin Question

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Mike Colemire, Mar 5, 2020.

  1. Mike Colemire
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    I have the king pin bushings installed in my Plymouth spindles, having a really hard time finding anyone with a reamer. Two machine shops and no luck, got 1 more to go. I've heard that some people hone them to fit, what kind of hone do they use? The pins are .790 so it'd have to be small.
     
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  2. Last ones I had honed by the guys that do big rigs in our community. Got them home and they seemed a little tight.

    I cut about 12 inches off a wood 3/4 inch dowel rod. Long enough to pass through both bushings and have a place to grip it with my hand. Wrapped one wrap of 400 grit wet sand paper on dowel.

    My own homemade hone. Have a nice king pin fit.

    Phil
     
  3. Find a shop with a sunnen hone.
     
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  4. Moriarity
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  5. birdman1
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    Brake cylinder hone is what I used
     
  6. Mike Colemire
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    I found an old Hamb thread and seen where they use a piston pin hone. I'm going to take them up to the machine shop where I buy all my steel from and see what they say.
     
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  7. TagMan
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    Unfortunately you're about 3-1/2 hours north of me, but if you get down around Bowling Green, KY., I'd be happy to ream them out for you.
     
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  8. Dont use a brake hone.You need to do both bushings at the same time.I tried it.Pin wont fit through both.It missed by .003....enough to drive you crazy.Any good machinist will use a pin hone,and do both at the same time to keep the holes aligned.
     
  9. Budget36
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    You on drugs?
     
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  10. deucemac
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    A sunnen wrist pin and a competent operator will cure your problem.
     
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  11. j hansen
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    I had to buy one of these adjustable reamer for my De Soto and Dodge. Skärmavbild 2020-03-06 kl. 10.52.44.png
     
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  12. Not at all, we use a Sunnen hone for kingpins at work. It works perfectly, quickly, and very accurate. The only problem is that we don’t have a mandrel that small. Most of the pins we do are around two inches. Irish Steve is also correct, DO NOT use a brake cylinder hone as each end of the spindle have to be in alignment with each other. This would be the perfect excuse for me to buy a set of adjustable reamers with pilots.


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  13. earlymopar
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    I echo the replies on using an automotive machine shop and having them honed. For about the same price as the reamer, you get a much better surface finish and a lot greater accuracy in the fit. This is what I did on my Dodge dropped axle.

    - EM
     
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  14. alchemy
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    If you use a hone like a brake cylinder hone that finishes each bushing independently, plan on replacing them in a couple thousand miles after they are worn out again. And you WILL have them honed correctly the second time.
     
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  15. Not since the '60s,but keep up on stuff that matters:p
     
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  16. Mike Colemire
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    Thanks for the offer Tagman, also I knew better than to use a brake hone. I used an adjustable hone on another set one time but it wasn't a pilot hone, done 1 at a time, didn't work out to good. I'm going to try and get up to the machine shop this coming week, I'll see what happens.
     
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  17. southcross2631
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    Sounds like a ride to Bowling Green to meet another Hamber and talk hot rods while he shows you how to hone your king pin bushings . Would not be a bad day to spend a day.
     
  18. blue 49
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    This is like the one I have and use.

    Gary
     
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  19. 47streetrodder
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    I have a King Bolt Reamer that was in my dads tools that I inherited. Reamer is about 70 years old or more. Application notes on the box says for 1934 Plymouth PE, PF, PG; 1935-57 cars; 1937-41 Trucks. Reamer size specified on the box is .797
     
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  20. Piewagn
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    I used one of these after I made my own bushings......
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  21. Corn Fed
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    Go to the McMaster Carr website and find an adjustable ream with a pilot. It will probably be around $125-$150. Buy it and do it yourself. I bet you spend close to that anyway when you finally find a shop that can do it. And now you will already have the tool for your next build.
     
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  22. DOCTOR SATAN
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    Adjustable ream & sunn hone are both good advice...
     
  23. deathrowdave
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    Got to center both bushings and hone or ream each one flip the hone center and hone or reap the second one . The key is slow as you go , take to much and you might as well not change the bushings
     
  24. gary terhaar
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    I get 40.00 to hone a set of bushings,ship it to me and have it back within the week.
    I have offered this before to other hambers but very few go the hone route..I fit them with a ag300 gauge , .001 clearance and straight.
     
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