Technical Rolling Bones Hot Rod Rearend

I've been drooling over photos and videos of Rolling Bones hot rods the last couple days and have a question. The rear tires generally appear to be tucked up very close to the body, and it seems they're perhaps even more narrow than any V8 banjo rearend I'm aware of. Maybe not? If they are narrower many of the cars appear to have a rearend that has the axle "snouts" on the rear hubs/drums. Granted, they're typically quick changes, but how do they accomplish a rearend that's quite narrow, so that the tires and wheels don't stick out, but appear to retain the stock looking banjo rearend hubs? Do they narrow banjo bells and use bolt-in axles but just somehow adapt the banjo looking hubs? Do they cut, re-taper the end, cut a new keyway slot and thread the end to shorten a regular banjo axle? My guess is neither of those, so how do they keep the tires so tucked against the body, or am I imagining something that's really not different?

Lynn

 

Im pretty sure they use quick change read ends with steel bells from Winters. Ive seen some cars they built with 35/36 rear ends and quickchange

 

Probably the best way to get this info would be to contact Rolling Bones themselves.

 

Been reading their books....QC Ford V8 rear end is what it says....what you will see if you race Judy

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So-o-o.....how did the rearend in the sedan become so narrow? Has it been genetically modified? Depending on wheel backspace the rearend under the sedan isn't anything more than 54" to 56" at the wheel mount surface, is it? The narrowest stock banjo I know of is a Model A at about 58" or 58 1/2".

I did some more searching and found that Winters standard V8 QC is 56" at WMS, but they'll do custom widths, I think. But, at $3,000+ for a new QC, I'm too much of a tightwad to be that cool.

Lynn

 

Wheel offset

 

Now where’s the fun in that ? Besides, that sounds too easy. Far better to have pages and pages of speculation and theory’s .
( although in reality, I’m sure that someone on here will actually know ).

 

Probably V8 Ford rearends with new slide in axles (can narrow it as much as you want then), and they cut the backside off an old hub and slide it over the studs for the "look".

 

Yes, I've seen the hubs are aesthetically placed for the look online someplace. I think a party at rolling bones video on YouTube.....

 

Guys he already answered his own question you can order the winters rear that narrow.

some of the cars do have slide in axles but not all of them

 

You're correct Tim, I probably do have my answer and that would indeed likely be either a now QC with bolt-in axles or a conversion like Hot Rod Works' kit.

I can also understand that in some cases the distinct banjo hub protrusion is perhaps just "window dressing". That's about like a QC looking rear cover on a 10-bolt GM rearend.

Lynn

 

You trying to end this informative thread for some reason.....?

 

This is my morning reading material, and good threads are scarce these days....

 

Early V8 rear, not latter V8 rear.

 

By no means....discuss to your heart's content! At least we're all "social distancing" while we're discussing things here!

Lynn

 

Yeah Like @A Boner said 1932 1933 1934 bells with stock 16 inch rims most likely 16x4.5 and a few examples of beautiful cars with a similar look

 

Interesting....

Rich

 

@Bass built some “fake” axle stubs for the Wade coupe. He put a lot of fantastic build videos of it on you tube maybe it’s featured in one or in the build thread?

 

Interesting comparison of the two cars viewed from the rear. Seems quite a difference of tire to wheel well clearance on the two. Do you know specifics on the rearends and/or wheels used? I'm not as well versed as others, but the car on the left is a '32, correct? Are they a bit wider than the Model A on the right? I'm going to do some searching now to try to answer my own question.

Lynn

 

Lynn, in the under-construction black coupe there is a new Winters V8 style rearend. Those can be ordered brand new assembled in any width you want. It's being built by Steadfast and he really likes to tuck the wheels in tight. A very clean look I think.

The two coupes facing away show a 32 on the left and 31 on the right. If the 32 has an old Ford banjo rear it's probably an early one, at least 36 or before. Usually a 37-40 or 41-48 rear sticks the wheels out more than that.

 

I have a 57 inch width Winters rear under my 32 pu with 16X6 inch wheels with the center at neutral and 750/16 tires and have 1 inch of clearance between the side walls and the box on each side. I have a 56 inch Winters rear in my deuce roadster with So-Cal 6 inch knockoff wheels and 750/16 tires and have an inch of clearance there also.

 

That’s due to some careful measuring, I’m sure!


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