Livin' in a city with lots of rain and lots of steep hills has got this boy wondering if it's possible to adapt a HillHolder device to a shoebox Ford. Studebaker had the original, I believe, and Subaru has used such a device in recent years. As it is now, I just drive very carefully going up hills to conserve momentum, and use the parking brake when I have to. Still, I get some jack*** on my **** way too often! Thanks in advance to all who reply. JTDeVil
Have you thought about using a roll control device like the drag racers use? http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=HUU%2D1745000&N=115&autoview=sku
You could hook up a line lock and work it with a switch on the dash or a switch on the clutch. I loved the one on my Stude, unfourtunatley I was young and stupid once and removed it when I changed motors.
Remember on a line-loc you have to pump the brakes once or twice then press the ****on. If this is the way you go
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Hill Holder Clutch: A Subaru exclusive (originally a Studebaker exclusive...). Manual transmission models only. A small rear brake that, after being set by the brake pedal, when the clutch was still depressed the car car would simply not roll down a hill! A very popular feature. On all manual trans. Legacy Ls in the 1990s and many earlier models. There is no hill-holder available with any 2.5L engine (1996 was the first year for the 2.5L) and it was discontinued for the 2000 model. Note: April 2002: hill-holder will be used again on the 03 Forester. This will be the first use in any 2.5L engine. (from [/FONT]http://www.cars101.com/subaru_terms.html#misc. ) I think that 'small brake he is refering to is the parking brake. Though from what the plumbing looked like in the one time I poked at the hill holder in my '91 Subie it appeared to just be plumbed into the regular brakes. Might be worth poking at one at a junkyard to see what all it would entail.
The Studebaker had a ball like device in a cylinder when you went up hill the ball would roll back and lock the brakes as long as you had the clutch in, as you let out the clutch the brake would release. It was connected to the clutch peddle. Had one in my 48, had to take it out because it was leaking, sure did miss it
i say just learn to drive! i live in a very hilly city at the base of some big mountains, and see no need for such a device. sure you may roll back a few inches on a hill when you go to take off, but if some *** is less than a foot from you they deserve to get tapped. really though your clutch and engine should be in good enough shape to hold the car in place at idle for the second it takes to move your foot from the brake to the throttle. clutches are made to slip some, you won't burn it up by slipping it a bit to hold you.
Amen. It's a neat feature that I wouldn't have taken off a Stude. I think Studebaker sold the idea to an aftermarket company, I have a book somewhere showing how it worked with a cutaway photo. I'll dig it out.... someday.
It's obvious from the replies read here that few have ever driven a car with a Hill Holder. It works automatically and you wouldn't even know it was there until you stop on a hill. Then you go "Hey, that's neater than sneakers". And your clutch and your left leg will thank you. Wagner originally patented the Hill Holder way back in 1935'ish and sold it to Studebaker, who equipped cars and trucks in 1937 and sold it through the early sixties. Subaru copied it and marketed it with their line of cars and mini whatever they are's... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hill-holder
Kinda on topic, I saw an unusual device at a swap meet a couple of weeks back. It was at the Rocco and Cheater's trailer and it was called a 'Drag Race brake' it looked to be an NOS piece form the sixties, had a spring loaded handle and lever that fit under the dash - kind of a mechanical line-loc. You would pull up, push down the foot brake, then engage this lever. I suppose when you got ready to go you knocked the lever out and took off. It had a heavy chrome knob that had "Drag Race Brake" embossed on it.
Mount a couple of cordless electric chain saws to the rear bumper, with a remote switch on the steering wheel. Then let it roll back a foot as you turn them on, they'll get the picture Or, Finally, a practical application for flame throwers, other than just being an ***hole showoff!
Hahah... either that, or drive my car. They ***ume I don't have insurance and steer clear of my car. lol
No, I picked it up and fondled it several times, but never did ask Sam about it. That was at Bowling Green, where my ****** melted down on the way in. As much as I liked it all I could think of was my busted C4. But it is one of those deals where as soon as I got home I was thinking, "ah ****, I shoulda bought that" I might still be able to get ahold of it though.
Damn.... sad sad swap meet story... I've kicked myself many times for not buying stuff. Then again, I often kick myself for buying it! lol
You can do it to a car that has Borg/Warner OD pretty easy...Just wire around the governer. Use a switch on the dash to engage the OD. When you stop on a hill,engage the switch,the car won't roll backwards,due to the one way clutch rollers in the OD. Been doing it for years,no problems,it will also give you six speeds fowward,you can make clutchless shifts,and with the switch engaged,if someone were to hotwire the car,it won't go into reverse,takes a while to figgure it out.. sparky
I bought an aftermarket accessory version of one of these at a swapmeet in San Francisco ( imagine that), it was called a "Hill Holder ", and it came in a red cardboard box, it could be installed on any manual trans car by bolting to the pedals had curved , toothed flat steel pieces , it even had a red jeweled light to let you know it was on , I might still have it somewhere , or at least the box or instructions , I will see if I can dig it up . John
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