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Help, '47 Plymouth back window rubber, how's it go on?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Nads, Feb 5, 2004.

  1. Nads
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    My pal Harry sold me a back window for my Chebby, it's nice, it's even got the rubber that's OK.
    What I wanna know is, what's the outside of the rubber, how does the rubber lay?
    I hope I'm making some sense.
    There's a fat wide lip on one side and a thin lip on the other.
    I'm thinking that the thin lip goes on the outside, but if I'm using the rope trick to install the gl*** there's no way the fat side's flexible enough to pop over the flange.
    Can I put the gl*** in from the inside?

    If any Mopar gurus can help, I'd appreciate it.

    BTW, I did a trial laying over the window opening and it looks killer, real nice flow and it's smooooth.

    I'm thinking this car will be painted in a month or so.
    I'm close.
     
  2. wayfarer
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    The wayfarer, which is a newer body style, has rear rubber that sounds similar. The fat side goes on the inside and you have to install it from the inside of the car. It's a pain in the **** to get it to work. I ruined one piece of rubber before we got a gl*** guy to come and install it. He did it the same way, in fact we had to help him. He lubricated teh rubber with lots of liquid dish soap and used the ropes to pull it through. Hope this helps.
     
  3. Crestliner
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    I used vasoline one time, but my window fell out. [​IMG] [​IMG] No I really did, but won't do it again.
     
  4. MYRIDE
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    Nads, Wayfairer has it spot on. As is mine, installed from the inside with the
    thinner - lip" pulled through by using a string. Be very very carefull, and work the string slowly so it will not split the rubber (no one likes a broken rubber... [​IMG])
    The garnish moulding holds mine in place as it should with yours. The more hands you can round up the better, have someone apply GENTLE pressure from the inside as you work the string from the outside. The secret here is GENTLE PRESSURE, so that as you pull the rubber lip through the pressure allows the window to slip into place.
    Hope this works for you.
     
  5. Nads
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    Thanks guys.
    MYRIDE, garnish molding?
    Shoot I don't have one, I guess I've gotta find one.
     
  6. wayfarer
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    Nads, the wayfarer doesn't have a garnish moulding for the back window, I'm pretty sure that your body style doesn't either. Teh fat lip on the rubber is your garnish moulding.
     
  7. MYRIDE
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    Watfarer may be correct, I know mine does and thats what holds the whole package together. Would suprise me if there wasn't one though.
     
  8. wayfarer
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    In the wayfarer, there's a flat spot around the window where the headliner glues to. The fat rubber piece covers that and there's no need for a garnish moulding.
     
  9. dv8 go and run outside and see if your '48 has the moulding or not...
     
  10. 47 plys do have an in side granish moulding nads don't know if I have a spare will have to look .You can do the gasket from the inside or out side it fits over that small lip in the window surround you need to lube it real good.and use a thin cord to work it around the gasket to speard the rubber over the little lip look at the other the back window you have to see how the gasket is on it. Dam your getting old but not as old as voodoo hahahaha.To me it is easier to lay the window on the outside to install it.install the bottom first over the lip then work the sides and top next. Been there done it. To hard to hold the window up on the inside and do the gasket Have help holding it when you do it so you don't drop it. Anything happen friday night or saturday before the show. pre show party, girly bar, etc. [​IMG]
     
  11. Nads
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    There are holes for a garnish molding, this definately had one.
    Grinder, the pre party starts tonight baby. We'll be at the house. The NYC ***holes will be rolling in all day. We're playing tonight at The Copper Rocket.
    The rubber gasket looks pretty tore up actually. It might not be soft enough for another go around.
    I went to Steele rubber and the damn thing's almost $90.....yikes!!!!
    Anyone know of a cheaper source?
     
  12. wayfarer
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  13. Bigums
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    That's Bernbaum. He's usually cheap, but don't expect a friendly conversation.
     
  14. 48_HEMI
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    Nads start with a new gasket you'll thank yourself later. all the info you've gotten is good. the thin flap goes to the outside. I use 3/16 nylon cord. anything thinner likes to cut thru the rubber. lube it with a little dish soap and water mixed fairly thick. tuck the cord as deep as possible under the flap. Have someone hold it tight to the inside.

    on the outside ALWAYS PULL THE ROPE TOWARD THE CENTER OF THE GL*** ALL THE WAY AROUND!! if you pull the rope straight towrds you or towards the body the rope tries to slice the rubber.

    good luck and if you have any more questions e-mail me
    Oldcargl***guy@aol.com
     
  15. MYRIDE
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    Nads, Andy Burnbaum may not be the friendliest guy on the phone but who gives a rats ***. His prices are the best I found for my Dodge, shipping was good, product was excellent.
    Figured you had to have "something" like a garnish moulding to hold that window in, good thing you checked again.
     
  16. wayfarer
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    Kind of strange the newer ones don't have a garnish moulding, huh? The rubber's made to just hold the thing in, no holes for any garnish mouldings and I've looked at four wayfarers and none of them had one.
     
  17. MYRIDE
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    Wayfarer, wonder if it is just your model? Not that familiar with it, I do know that every manufacturer/model I've ever looked at has some type of moulding around the window.
     
  18. wayfarer
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    all I know is, they don't have them. It was one less piece to paint!
     

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