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Hot Rods DuVall Windshield Frames

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by GR5, Feb 12, 2019.

  1. GR5
    Joined: Oct 8, 2015
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    Hey Guys,

    Hopefully this hasn't been discussed, at least not recently.

    I really dig the look of the Duvall windshield frame on roadsters. I know Speedway sells one for the '30-'31 A and also the '32, but not the '28-'29. I also saw that O'Brien makes the Hallock frame for the '28-'29.

    I've seen pictures of guys with Duvall frames on their '28-'29 roadsters and RPUs, but I can't seem to find someone who repops them. Anyone know?

    Thanks for looking,

    Mike
     
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  2. jimmy six
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    Duvall's were only for 32's as I remember. RIP Julian Doty, SCTA Sidewinder, knew all about them
     
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  3. Dirty Dug
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    A friend of mine makes the Duvall frames that Speedway sells. He's making them now for '28-'29 roadsters as well.
     
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  4. GR5
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    That’s great news. Will they be available through Speedway or direct from him?

    Thanks,

    Mike


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  5. Dirty Dug
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    I don't think Speedway has them listed. He just recently had the patterns made. Direct from him would be cheaper.
     
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  6. 08racer
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    Do you have any info on these?


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  7. john walker
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    Always wanted to make one for a larger car, like the early coach builders did. I assume the forms were made of wood andthen cast in brass/bronze, right? Cast whole, then cut later for glass insertion? What about the glass groove, how was that done. We should have a how to discussion on making these.
     
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  8. jimmy six
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    28-29's were Duke Hallock's...a lot better that a Duvall style.
     
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  9. Dirty Dug
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    I think they're cast in four or five pieces. The glass channels are cast into the frame pieces
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  10. john walker
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    The one I got from your buddy is two pieces. The top comes off for the glass. Are the two sections welded together in the middle?
     
  11. Dirty Dug
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    Yes, I've only seen one set as cast and they look real rough. He has to do a lot of work on them when he gets them back from the foundry.
     
  12. A Boner
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    The biggest problem is the pattern has to be made larger so when the cast metal cools, it will end up the correct size to fit the car it is designed for.....Shrinkage!
     
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  13. COCONUTS
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    Some guy in El Paso, TX was getting them poured in Mexico and selling them through E-Bay. Real rough but with alum. not that hard to work with. Almost like you were doing the final shaping and finishing. I think that because he screw over to many people he is now out of business or else hiding out in Mexico.
     
  14. hfh
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    from Western MA

    IMG_1072.JPG The shrinkage problem is not difficult to solve. About 20 years ago I made a pattern for my windshield using pine. My patternmaker friend then added to the pattern for the shrinkage. I think the shrinkage is about 3/16" per foot for aluminum and bronze. He added a piece about 3/8" wide along each piece in the center of the windshield so that it would fit my cowl. We didn't care if the windshield got shorter in the casting. We cast it in bronze at a local foundry. The grooves for the glass were machined after the castings were made.

    I love the look of the Hallock windshields but living in New England I knew that I would need enough headroom to have a top. So my windshield is a bit taller and I have about 1/2" of headroom inside under the top. Since then I have cast two more windshields in aluminum using my pattern. IMG_1072.JPG
     
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  15. jimgoetz
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    Killer !
     
  16. Phil Carracho
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    Is your friend still making the windshields? Speedway is no longer offering them. They canceled my order month ago.


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  17. Xman
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    I talked with Paul Wescott today and he is considering having Duval windshields either cast in bronze or investment cast in stainless steel. needs to see if there is enough interest.
     
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  18. DDDenny
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    from oregon

    Where is he located?
     
  19. Xman
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    Sorry, Wescotts Auto Restyling I'm sure you know them
     
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  20. Rick Coast
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    I installed one on a 32 glass roadster and he rolled the car over . he said being so strong cast it acted like a rool bar. thank god they came out with minor injuries.
     
  21. I have a brass one for a T. Not sure that helps...
     

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