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Hot Rods 1932 Ford Roadster Door Question

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by AlsopAndSons, Dec 7, 2020.

  1. AlsopAndSons
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    So my car was a mad scientist restoration project at one point, so I am not sure if this is original, but...

    Inside the doors there is what looks like a large hardened piece of cardboard / fibre board which may be a) original or b) placed there at some point as an attempt at sound deadener.

    My question is, does anyone have any ideas of how to get it out? If it had a window slot I could get it out of the top, but it is a roadster door so that is not possible.

    I'd rather not cut the inner structure to deal with this - but I want it out before they go off for media blasting.

    Appreciate any ideas!

    Cheers
    Aaron
     
  2. DDDenny
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    Sound deadener, leave it.
     
  3. AlsopAndSons
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    Ya but it is just flopping around in there.
     
  4. Just a thought spray some of that expanding foam insulation in through a hole.It will take up the rattle around room.If your careful you could do the top leaving the bottom empty so any water that gets in can get out.
     
  5. AlsopAndSons
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    not sure about that idea. At most I’d consider getting some spray adhesive behind it and try to get it to stick to the door panel again.
     
  6. The37Kid
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    Model A Roadster doors had the same lump of stuff and those two pointed bits in the center held it in place. There was a thread here a while back about using expanding foam in plase of the original lump, but the idea was shot down for some reason. Bob
     
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  7. AlsopAndSons
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  8. AlsopAndSons
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    Oh no it’s actually in the door. Like a piece of leather is in there and almost the whole size of the door.
     

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  9. X38
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    Okay, if the whole thing is loose and it's distressing you, break it out piece by piece through the hole where your finger is.
    He is showing you the two triangular tangs that hold the piece in place in an A Model door.
     
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  10. AlsopAndSons
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    Haha distressing me is a bit far, but a piece flipping around doesn’t seem much use.

    Ya the first time he posted it there was no comment so wasn’t sure the reasoning. Saw the update so all good.
     
  11. Kiwi 4d
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    I vote no on expanding foam . I know of a guy who had his roadster doors basically metal finished and wanted the solid clunk feel on shutting , so he used expanding foam and it did what it does best , expanded the door skin out of shape ! So I don’t think it’s a good idea.
     
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  12. AlsopAndSons
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    Ya I won’t be doing the foam thing.
     
  13. quickchangeV8
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    I have a 1927 roadster that has newspaper crumpled up inside the doors that acts as a sound deadener. The newspaper has been in these doors since 1949. The newspaper crumpled up would keep that fiber board from moving around and would be easy to remove if needed.
     
  14. KevKo
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    Is the deadener supposed to be held against the outer panel? If yes, try a small piece of closed cell foam or maybe rubber hose between it and the inner panel. Just something to take up the space and hold it against the outer panel.
     
  15. AlsopAndSons
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    I'm ***uming it is and I'm ***uming its original. I'll try to spray some adhesive behind it as well as put something behind the hump to hold it with some more friction.
     
  16. krylon32
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    Had the same situation with my original 32 Ford roadster doors. We just stuffed some foam thru the holes to keep the fiber board from rattling. Did it 10 years ago and it's worked fine.
     
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  17. hotrodA
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    I put the expanding foam in my HotrodA roadster doors back in the 80’s, and got lucky, I guess.
    Didn’t mess up the skins, and the doors clicked shut with stock latches. Very solid.
    There are two types, and I used the slower, small hole version. Don’t remember the can color.
     
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  18. xix32
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    My original ( early type ) doors have that inside of them also. It's original. If you want it out of there, maybe you could
    cut away as much as you can through the large opening where the latch was. Then keep pulling the remaining toward that opening and cutting it up until it's gone. One of my doors had a 1938 U.S.A. road map stuffed inside, I suppose in an attempt to stop the rattle.
     
  19. Deuce Daddy Don
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    Hmmmm-----Never experienced that in my doors, but did remove old newspapers shoved in!---Guess it was an anti rattle quick fix like many of you have stated.
     
  20. AlsopAndSons
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    On the topic of doors... the hinges are held on by what looks like two rivets. This is what they look like on the inside of the door. The “head” is completely flat.

    wondering if this is original or some restorer of days gone by.
     

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  21. Andy
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    I have the original Austin newspapers that were stuffed in the Tweety Bird roadster. All from late 1956. I found one with an ad for the new 1957 Chevy. Newspaper stuffing is traditional
     
  22. The37Kid
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    That waffle pattern on the rivet tells me it is a factory rivet. Bob
     
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