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You've detroyed your oil filter, will not budge

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Carpet Bomber, Jul 28, 2006.

  1. Carpet Bomber
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    I've deroyed my oil filter. gave it the old screw drive and tore right though. It is down to the plate and threads. This ****er wont budge. Ideas??????
     
  2. OK not to be smart ***, but are you turning it the right way? I've done this too with oil filters because of the way I was looking at it my orientation got screwed up and I was actually tightening it.

    Try going the other way.

    In know this won't help now, but always oil the gasket and only go 1/4 to 1/2 turn after the gasket makes contact. After I started doing this I never needed anything but my hand to unscrew a filter.
     
  3. Carpet Bomber
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    It's an Idea, but no.
     
  4. jerry
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    Use a chisel almost flat against the rolled edge of the remainder. Hammer it in thre direction theat will loosen it. Should be the counter clockwise direction.


    jerry
     
  5. VonDad
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    Had a 69 Dodge that the nephew used the filter wrench to tighten...

    Anyway when time to take it off used screwdriver to rip off the tin and filter stuff until left with only the hard metal ring. Used a chisel and hammer to make a notch and it finally came loose.

    On the bigger machinery where I work, Caterpillar and Komatsu loaders and such, a big pair of Channel Locks, or a pipe wrench usually takes care of the problem.

    Hope this helps. Best of luck gettin the ****er loose.

    VonDad
     
  6. Carpet Bomber
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  7. Carpet Bomber
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    The car was sitting for 12 years too.
     
  8. 40Standard
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    chisel it. i had too one time some yrs ago
     
  9. 13KustomMachine
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    a good filter plier should be able to get any stuck filter off in my experience...screw drivers and all that ******** just tear it up and scratch paint while your at it...talk nice to the filter, she'll be good to you
     
  10. rodknocker
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    if you can get to it, big *** channel locks right where the filter meets the motor
     
  11. Comet
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    If the filter housing is completely gone and you can reach the threaded insert, a pipe wrench or channel locks around the filter's threaded insert and some penetrating oil should do the trick. Just be careful not to damage the threads on the engine side of things.
     
  12. snortonnorton
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    Use heat?

    I'm with you man, I'm busting my brains over my stuck flathead head studs. jesus, I didn't know studs/bolts could be so seized. I used so much strength getting one head off, and 3 studs broke, one flush with block.

    i tried everything and i still can't get 18 of the studs out, I just bought a 30 dollar craftsment stud remover and the ****er slipped on the stud....

    gonna try more heat with a torch, then flash it with cold water, and maybe hit it with a nylon hammer and try again tomorrow, i'm thinking of just drilling all of them but I have to have sleeves machined to accurately drill them out using the heads as a pattern.

    anyways, try heating the thing? that worked for my stuck plugs once
     
  13. Lucky Strike
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    If a regular pipe wrench does not work try an internal pipe wrench. I discovered these for the first time fixing my water heater last month. Worked like a dream taking the steel pipe stubbs out of the top of the water heater.

    It has a little cam with teath on it that pops out and wedges itself on the inside of what you are trying to turn and you can then put a socket on it with a braker bar and turn it good.
     

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  14. Paul
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    can you pull the 3 bolts holding the aluminum filter mount to the block

    and work on it on the bench?

    as said before,
    try not to damage the threads or gasket surface

    [​IMG]
     
  15. Hey, I've had that happen before too. What I finally used was a pair of needle nose pliers, I stuck each point into one of the small holes on what was left of the filter plate if I remember correctly (this was about 30 years ago) I also ended up placing a 1/2" drive extension across the handle grips to get more leverage. Then I was able to get it to turn off. Hey it worked for me,Good Luck to you!:D Gary 4T950 Chevy Guy
     
  16. Gator
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    I had to do that to remove one that my brother installed. Crushed it with a filter wrench, then tried the screwdriver trick, and finally a cold chisel. Turned out to be an 8 hour oil change.
     
  17. Yeah, we've all been there. When it happens on a dateless Friday night you always feel like a total loser.

    Fear not.

    Squirt some ATF or kerosene or mix of both to soak a bit and then chisel and pry.
    Rust and corrosion are defeated by a mix of brute strength and human cunning. It's you against it, man.:)
     
  18. Carpet Bomber
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    I actually took two of the three out and said srew this when I couldn't get to that top left one. I've also got basketball player hands 3x, and those don't make life easier. O' Exept holding my ****.
     
  19. Carpet Bomber
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    I thing I'm going to go with the Cold chisel in the morning. I've only got 5 hours into mine. The most frustrating part of this whole deal is that I just got it, it hasn't been run in 12 years and I've ran through all the fluid change stuff before I make it breath again. Radiator flush, trans fluid, lubricate the top end ,plugs wires points, new battery. I getting all excited to bring it to life finally, just have to change the oil real quick. It's enough to piss a guy off.
     
  20. Jimv
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    It happen to me & I use a spanner wrench that was adjustable .Something like the wrench used for taking a disk off a grinder.I put the pins in the holes and it came out, wasn't easy!!
    JimV
     
  21. BEDSLEAD
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    If ya wrap sand paper around it you can get a good grip and spin it easier.
     
  22. tisdelski
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    looks like you need a freeze plug while you are at it .


    gary
     
  23. Carpet Bomber
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    The ******* finally came lose this morning. Gave it **** loads of heat and a bigazz chizel. Got the new oil filter on, oil in it. Turns over and is getting gas but I think I'm getting on spark. And no buddies around this weekend to turn over while I give it a look over for spark. Please addvise.
     
  24. TxRat
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    Get you one of those remote starter switches. most parts houses have them...
     
  25. 1FATGMC
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    A little too late, but next time make a simple tool that goes up into the holes of the filter that you can turn with a wrench. It doesn't have to be fancy. Don't ask me how I know about this :-(. All I know is that once you do this you will double check and triple check which way you are turning the filter in the future.

    c ya, Sum
     
  26. Deuce Roadster
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    No one who even considers himself a half a$$ mechanic should be without one ...

    [​IMG]

    I have two ... so that makes me a half a$$ mechanic ... X ... two :)
     
  27. I have an empty space in my tool box for one of those. Would that make me a half ***hole mechanic?:D
     
  28. Deuce Roadster
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    [​IMG]

    I got both of mine used ... for about 5 dollars each ... so I guess that makes me a CHEAP ... half A$$ mechanic ... :rolleyes:
     
  29. HighSpeed LowDrag
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    I know it's too late now, you got the filter off but I have always been able to get a 3ft pry-bar wedged in against the very base of the filter and something else, be it the motor, a bracket, the suspension, whatever. Hasn't failed me yet.
     
  30. Carpet Bomber
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