Folks Of Interest SCAM ALERT, This time eBay

I wanted to buy off a vendor’s website, but couldn’t as no other countries were listed other than USA. I then decided to check if they were selling their stuff on eBay. Indeed they were, but price was US$4.00 more -$49 vs $45. I could live with that, and placed the order this morning. Also, with eBay shipping to Canada was available whereas it wasn’t on their site, so eBay must have some advantages for such vendors.

 

Let's see..fees are known up front, you know what you want your net dollars to be, seems logical to calculate fees, add those fees to the price so you achieve your net you desire.
E-Bay is good for one thing, that is exposure..it makes the world a lot smaller, therefore greater opportunities to sell/buy.
Not all people of our age group do facebook (I don't)..aren't we selling items that typically are bought by us gray beards?
I'm not pro E-Bay, but I am all about finding/selling that hard to find part, especially in todays non-existent swap meet CV19 world.

 

Agree. I’m a power seller so I must be pretty stupid according to some here. The profit will pay for my next build and help a friend retire. I’ve never been scammed. I buy parts too, NOS and good original stuff to avoid anything off shore. I ship 7 days a week. I don’t like eBay or PP but they are tools that I use to support my hobby. To each his own. Regards, Randy


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No one forced you,you did this on your own. You weren’t veryFAIR with me on our last deal. You changed the rules after you had 80%of the monies. You benefitted greatly, myself took a $100 beating. KARMA reared up and grabbed you—-no one feels sorry for you.! You did this 2 yourself! Paybacks are a *****!

 

The free HAMB cl***ifieds are a great deal even for non Alliance members but IMO everyone should become an Alliance member as a show of support in addition to the other membership perks. Again, JMO.

 

Sounds like the OP posted a scam alert about himself

 

WELL SAID !!!!

 

Oh!

 

Yes, Ebay owns Paypal...it's like "double dipping".

When a buyer pays with Paypal, the Paypal fees are paid by the seller as usual. But, now, instead of that payment going directly into the sellers Paypal account, it's sent to Ebay which holds it for up to 7 days and then sends it to the seller's bank account. During those 7 days, Ebay collects interest on the money.

So Paypal still makes it's fees...and Ebay makes money (interest) on holding the payment...double dipping.

 

No sir I respectively disagree. The buyer pays PayPal, I receive his money in my PayPal immediately. PP removes their fee at the same time. I then ship the item. I pay eBay once a month. I would never ship an item without the buyers money. I ship on the average of 2 packages a day 7 days a week thru eBay selling. I sold $14k in 2020 on eBay. My user ID is jagtech1 if you want to verify. I have sold on eBay for 21 years and my wife 19 years.

What some might get concerned about is If the seller makes a dispute or opens a case. Then the money is immediately removed from my account and placed in a holding tank so that neither the buyer nor the seller has the money until the case is closed. Yes eBay is all for the buyers but I have been treated fairly by eBay over the last 12 months with no real issues.

I have heard of some PayPal users complaining that they can’t get their money like most of us do. I do believe it’s because the account isn’t verified w a social security number for tax reasons. I can transfer money immediately after receiving it to my bank for a fee or transfer it free but it takes 2-3 business days. That’s what I have done for years.

There is no such rule that eBay makes anyone ship an item without being paid imho. In fact, I have no option to even print a shipping label until the buyer has paid! I will post a picture of that if you’d like (the next time it happens as I just shipped a item tonight and my list is clear).

Regards, Randy


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eBay and Paypal have been completely separate companies since 2015.
eBay is transitioning to Paypal rival Adyen, a Dutch company, to handle payment for eBay. It basically eliminates third-party payments.

 

Randy. thing are changing on Ebay...they are changing to the "Managed Payment" program...they just haven't contacted you YET.

Below is a "message" I got on one of my accounts ( I have 2 "stores") and NO such message to my other account. ..so it's still business as usual. On Sept 1, I got a message saying I could no longer list on that one account...so I closed that "store".

It's coming ! They just haven't got to you yet.

Check out some of the "community" comments NO BODY IS HAPPY about this







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Thanks for the information! Maybe they haven’t got to me as I’m not running a business nor a store. I stay under 200 sales and $20k in sales a year. To be honest I don’t do it for the fun nor the money at this point. I’m helping a elderly gentlemen retire and clear out his shop of ac***ulated tools of 35 years. Thanks again, Randy


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I bought a non-automotive item off EBAY and upon receipt it was clear the item did not work and was an over priced piece of junk. When I threatened to give the seller a bad business review I got a significant immediate partial refund. Buyer beware.

 

Basically the - STATES (taxes) - want their share of the pie if you hadn't notice. Still like my swap meets the best, CL second for local and FB has then same characters fishing around as CL. Like Ebay as the people across the pond have a chance that aren't on the HAMB. Might give that a try as well soon.

 

I've been on a rampage to minimize my life and sell everything I don't need/want.

I turned to eBay for the weird stuff like a pair of shoes, a sculpture, an old motorcycle pin, etc., and it's been fun. So far, I had one slow buyer but I reached out to him and it got settled quickly.

Sure there are fees. I don't mind, though, I didn't think much of that stuff would sell. It hadn't locally.

Sometimes I think I'd rather pay fees than do the FB thing where there's a lot more chatting, haggling, etc.

 

eBay and PayPal are businesses. They post their terms and rules. You may not like them but if you choose to use them it’s on their terms. That is not a scam. I don’t buy or sell a lot on eBay but you cannot deny they have a lot of exposure both for buyers and sellers. How many times do sellers search eBay for the going price before listing or search eBay for the going price before buying from any source. At least that is what I do. As a seller you are in control for what the selling price will be. That’s the same no matter if you sell on eBay, Facebook marketplace, Craig’s list or a swap meet. On eBay you can do all this from the comfort of your recliner if you choose. There are costs for swap meets, gas getting there and back, booth charges, labor loading and unloading not to mention most everything sold is on a offer or barter basis. For the convenience, exposure, ease of transaction I think ebays selling fee of 10% is a bargain.

 

The big beef with Ebay's "Managed Payment" program is: They want to hold on to the payment for a number of days (to make interest on the $) but they expect us to ship out the item BEFORE the payment is actually deposited in your account. Sellers won't do that.

So buyers are unhappy with longer shipping times, and sellers have to deal with the unhappy buyers. Ebay is actually ****ing their base (buyer & sellers) to make a little more $.

 

I used to have so much fun on ebay for a good while in the early days when you were a seller, and they rented you electronic floor space.
...before feedback became a farce, when feedback would show you who were the good people and who werent. before todays fake feedback system.
I was a big time Powerseller for over a decade. A bit at a time they inched their way from a reasonable free-market land into a semi commie country.
I used to be able to give advice to my customers. It eventually evolved into a totalitarian place where you were not allowed to talk without a "minder" monitoring every word in every monitored correspondence for clues of unpermitted speech.
I survived the first three big seller revolts as they kept squeezing and squeezing bigger and bigger fees.
I eventually closed my doors when they started promoting heavily their stupid "here, press this ****on and get your $800 back" for any old reason a shoplifter can dream up. Then its up to you to try to get your items back from a shoplifter.
Out of thousands, I only lost one, but the poisoned atmosphere and the constant battles with crooks that evilbay was encouraging made it where I could no longer stand to be there.
The 10,000$ months were great but I prefer a less rotten workday.
When they decided a seller could no longer leave a Negative for a shoplifter, but a nasty buyer could destroy any seller that didn't throw in free stuff and had to beg please be nice, I closed up and walked away.
I keep my account in good standing just in case I want to buy a little something but I'll be damned if I'll ever pay them a seller's fee ever again.
Now it seems to be a mostly chinese junk store.
I recently made the mistake of buying a new high quality starter for my bike.
It lasted three months. The window regulators I bought for two cars will not raise the windows.
I guess I am leaving again
I should have remembered my lesson, but I guess I didn't.
I wonder how many remember that evilbay used to have their own Billpoint payment system that became so hopelessly screwed up and scrambled that they dumped it and made a bid for very young Paypal.
I used to grab my money from paypal when I wanted, and I chose how much I downloaded when I wanted it.
Billpay would send me a payment immediately when a customer clicked. I would get dozens of deposits in my bank in tiny amounts that filled a page and drove my bank crazy with pages of entry's.
With Paypal I would withdraw usually 2 to 3 lumps a month, and it was simple.
That evilbay program of keeping a sellers money for two weeks until a buyer said he liked the item, or the seller wouldn't get paid, all the while evilbay collected interest on the stolen money you were FORCED to loan them.... well I am glad I was gone before that crookedness started.
Sorry for the rant.
Former Powerseller

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Question: As an buyer, my Paypal is linked to a checking account at my credit union. When I select Paypal as my payment method, it comes out of that checking account, since I have no Paypal balance. So is this costing me any extra? Should I add funds into my Paypal account? Is Paypal a necessary middle man between Ebay and my credit union?

I don't read all the 5000 word terms of service emails they send out, I just buy buy buy!

 

Ebay got rid of pay pal now they take money and pay you 3 business days after the buyer pays. Then it goes to your bank and it could take 1 to 4 business days to clear.

 

For anybody that has bought or sold a vehicle (running, driving, ***led) thru Ebay, how was your experience and did you have any issues? I have an ot later model sports car that I am wanting to sell. Its kinda of a cream puff, low mileage, unmolested. I was thinking that Ebay would offer greater exposure but not a 100% sure how all the ***ling, payment, and transportation costs are handled. Any other good sites to also look at listing it on other than craigslist and FB?

 

You fill out the back of the ***le listing the new buyer as owner and hand it to him after you have your money in hand.

Payment is specified in your ebay listing. Whether you take checks, cash, or beads is up to you. I opt for cash.

Transportation costs, if any, are up to the buyer. If he elects to use a shipper you might cooperate with the timing.

Remember--be like a ****** and get your money up front.

 

@Frames First you posted the "FedEX Scam Alert", now the "eBay Scam Alert"? In both cases there was an avenue for you to KNOW what the costs would be, you just failed to read them.

What's next the "Extended Car Warranty from Kevin Who Has a Very Heavy Indian Accent Scam Alert"?

Or maybe the "Gas Tax Scam Alert"?

 

Wait, Kevin said he was my friend and giving me the second best car warranty in all of India!

 

Ebay sellers and Ebay themselves have no end to scams and fees they can do! A lot of guys I know have stopped selling on Ebay unless it's a big ticket item. Most tell me they can't make any profit on lower priced sales, so they either quit or don't do anything cheap.
But I ran into another scam just the other day. I was winning a bid on an item, and the end price was probably 80% off what I figured it was worth! I was excited to see I was winning it cheap at the end! Then it closed and I got a notice from Ebay saying the auction was "canceled by the seller"? It also said to go to the "bid history" to see why it was cancelled. But when I went to the bid history any record of me bidding, or the item existing was gone! And even a search of my "recently viewed items" wouldn't show I'd ever looked at the item!
I know the seller canceled the auction because it was selling too cheap and they hadn't put a reserve on it. But to have any record of the item, or my having viewed or bid on it also disappear is nuts.
Of course I'll never bid on anything that seller ever offers, and sent them a nasty message telling them so. Their reply was simply, "Sorry"

 

No, there are no fees for buying with a zero balance in your Paypal account...BUT it defeats the whole purpose of using Paypal

Paypal acts as a 3rd party payment method that allows you to make online payments without exposing too much personal info (bank accounts C.C.c etc) for potential hackers. It's sort of a firewall.

If you keep a zero balance in your Paypal account nd they draw funs from you bank, EVERY transaction technically will have a (hackable) electronic trail back to your personal banking info.

Hope tis helps

 

I'd say about 85% of my car parts (aftermarket, used/NOS) came from Ebay.

You have to be patient, and know what to look for. I look for a real state that the item is located in. Not "usa seller!" Which is a dead giveaway of China. I even sold my rebuily 2 speed automatic to a guy in Germany on Ebay. That money bought me a NOS bumper, and a Spal radiator fan. He was happy, and I was happy.

Now I have 3 pedals....the way all vehicles should be!

 

Thanks Jack. Does one also lose the Paypal buyer protection stuff by having zero balance? Also, whenever I go to pay it asks me if I want to pay extra for some other form of warranty or protection. Never done it, nor made any type of claim, so far so good..

 

It sounds more like Ebay itself canceled the listing.

It's hard for a seller to cancel (or even edit) a listing in the last 12 hours of an auction. The seller would have had to go in and manually cancel each and every bid before he could cancel the listing...and you would have received a "cancelled bid" notice.

Sounds more like Ebay had a problem with the listing...I've had it happen to me