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Technical 55 ford not starting

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by billg51, Jun 6, 2021.

  1. squirrel
    Joined: Sep 23, 2004
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    I had an issue like that with my 55 chevy, I ended up putting a little Bosch solenoid in line with the purple wire, to give it a "boost" close to the starter. Fixed the problem. There's no need to use a huge several hundred amp capacity relay such as the "ford solenoid" to power a low power thing like that.
     
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  3. MeanGene427
    Joined: Dec 15, 2010
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    from Napa

    Really? Must be a slow day- what a thing to complain about. I always have a couple of those Ford solenoids on the shelf, and they are relatively cheap. Tried it, it worked, it's on the car and it looks OEM and sanitary on the car. Those Ford-type solenoids come in lots of amperage ratings for different uses, those cranes on heavy mechanics' trucks have a bunch of HD ones to control the motors, so the guys always carry a few for spares. I also use them when converting 6V tractors to 12V, and lets me run a basic key switch to control the starter. And the stock Ford-type solenoid is far from "huge", and in this case fit great. Accomplished exactly the same result for the same problem, and didn't have to go to the parts store or look anything up. Sheesh... :rolleyes:
     
  4. Budget36
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    Well, used to put Aneroid cheater valves with a pressure regulator on ***mins long ago;)
     
  5. Wrench97
    Joined: Jan 29, 2020
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    Are you sure it's the correct starter relay(solenoid )?
    As I recall a 6v relay does not usually have a I terminal for the ignition wire.
    If it has 2 the second small one may be for a ground wire, are there any markings on the terminals?
     
  6. billg51
    Joined: Jul 21, 2009
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    from Ct

    So I did what bar said wire from battery to center post on solenoid and nothing , got another new solenoid and she fired right up. Now new ignition switch , battery , solenoid , and voltage regulator should be all set for a while. Thanks to all for the help , seems the first solenoid I bought was no good.
     
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  7. Truck64
    Joined: Oct 18, 2015
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    A lot of places only stock what I call "Drug store quality" electrical parts and the Ford type starter relay is definitely one of those to watch out for. The NOS/NORS or good used is what you want.
     
  8. MeanGene427
    Joined: Dec 15, 2010
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    from Napa

    A low mileage earlier "Ford" solenoid is always worth keeping- they are pretty tough. One can usually fix most any starter solenoid if you want to go old-school or if you're stuck somewhere, take it apart (might have to drill some rivets) and clean up/ rotate the disc and contacts, usually works fine again. Have done it more than twice on D8 CATs when the machine needed to be running right away, the disc is pretty good sized in those big 24V starters. I even put a push-****on end cap on the starter of my Indian, I can just reach under the seat to start it- makes folks scratch their heads
     
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  9. Moriarity
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    nope
     
  10. bobss396
    Joined: Aug 27, 2008
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    My solenoid from Napa took an early dump on me, think it lasted a year. In fact almost every Napa part on the car has **** the bed on me. I got an expensive $32 solenoid, Blue Streak and its been fine since.
     
  11. Truck64
    Joined: Oct 18, 2015
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    from Ioway

    Yeah, the starter relay (and starter itself) has a "duty cycle", it's designed to p*** maybe 100 amps 12 volt DC or so, but only for for a second or two tops. Good ones cost a certain amount of coin. They don't ordinarily have a continuous duty cycle rating of 100 amps unless you pay for it.

    When they offer up el-cheapo scheisse that retails @ 6 bucks a piece whaddaya expect?
     
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  12. billg51
    Joined: Jul 21, 2009
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    from Ct

    Well I took out the new solenoid and put another new one on and a new power wire and it fired right up , didn’t think that it would be the first new one I put on was bad , but it was , thanks everyone for all the help , it is appreciated
     
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