Morning Fellas anyone done the Borgensen/ Saginaw conversion for our cars, mines going in my 55 Fairlane. Wondering about the results thanks in advance
From the archives https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum...o-jeep-delphi-600-power-steering-box.1103324/ Here's one more: https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/power-steering-add-on.1019325/
Depends on what your concerns are on the column shift since the column need to be cut and a bearing added. I know one gentlemen who kept the 3-speed std shift on his 54 but it was a real pain. Automatics need less length. Some put in another aftermarket column and floor shift. Many options to choose and figure into the work. Y-block pump mount unless your going with a more modern engine.
I found the Saturn (and others) electric power steering conversion articles intriguing. Low cost, no pump, pump mounts, pulley alignment or hoses to deal with. Some fabrication, but if you are going to cut or replace the column anyway, why not give those some thought...?
Since you brought it up here is a link: https://www.killbillet.com/forum/th...ing-from-a-saturn-vue-into-54-ford-customline Another upside to using the stock Ford box is it's smaller size guys that have gone with the larger Borgeson in 1952-56 cars have had exhaust clearance issues.
I've had all the parts in my garage for about 2 months now, I just haven't had the time to fool with it yet. When I do I am planning on taking pictures and posting a thread here. My car is an automatic, 292 and I will be keeping the original column with shift linkage for now.
Installed the setup in my 56. Got the car running but haven't finished everything else needed to be able to drive it. Soon I hope.
So that is the Borgenson box? Did you have any interference problems with the frame, I have read some posts where they needed to notch the top of the frame for clearance to get the right angle to the column. It looks like you didn't even need a u-joint and it looks very clean and neat, better than other posts I have seen. Congrats!
I would like to see a picture showing the steering box to exhaust clearance with the engine in place.
Hey dodg66440 are you running the stock column?? I’ve got the original 2speed fordomatic and was wondering if you just shorten the outer column ??. Anyway parts on the way for this set up and could use advice from a proven source, thanks in advance
That is a shortened stock column. I'm running a T5 so no shift linkage. I did have to heat the top of the frame rail and beat it down a little to get the shaft alignment correct. As far as exhaust clearance I had to make a 3/8 inch thick spacer to get it to clear. Not on the road yet so I can't give an opinion on how it performs.
Bringing this back up- is the original Pitman arm reused with the Borgeson box? I'm intending to use this steering setup with an FE. Hey dodg66440: what clutch linkage is that in your picture above? I think my FE/Toploader combo may use the 56 clutch linkage but I have no idea what that stuff looks like (my car was an auto).
You have to be a member of killbillet to view here you do not. https://www.hotrodders.com/threads/electric-power-steering-install-in-a-54-ford.526435/
I used the Borgensen boxs on my 55 Victoria an my wagon with the stock auto column both worked out well both drive very well
Having space issues, we used the original box in ‘53 with EPS. The box works well with no issues, but rather slow to suit me. I would change if I could find a quicker box that would fit. BTW, love EPS!
I believe they used to give a pitman arm with the box, have read that you have to use your old one, fine by me. I'm on the fence between the Borgeson box or R&P.
I have a Borgesen but haven't installed it yet. When I was researching this I tracked down a couple guys that had installed R&P systems, one in a 55 Crown Vic and one in a 56 wagon. Both said the turning circle was greatly increased and didn't like the way they drove. The Crown Vic guy went to a Borgesen and loved it. The other guy went with EPS and a stock steering box and like what Pheaton193 said, the steering ratio was very slow but he liked it better than the R&P. I don't know what R&P setup (brand) they used but convinced me I didn't want R&P.
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