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Technical I.D. this steering box - anyone??

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by dhughens, Aug 8, 2021.

  1. dhughens
    Joined: Jan 28, 2015
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    dhughens

    Hi, could I get someone's experience here? This is the steering box we cannot seem to identify. It should be 30's/40's Ford or Teens Dodge but could be anything. I have attached views from several angles. Thanks for all comments, dan...

    hotrod steering box (1).JPG hotrod steering box (2).JPG hotrod steering box (3).JPG hotrod steering box (4).JPG hotrod steering box (5).JPG hotrod steering box (6).JPG hotrod steering box (7).JPG
     
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  2. Mr48chev
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  3. dhughens
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    It does look similar but the mounting ears are different. Also, the link's pics don't seem to show the weird adjuster on the bottom. BTW, clicking on the pics bring them full size, (at least in firefox). Thanks for responding, dan...
     
  4. Moriarity
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    When you post full images they are twice the size of the smaller pics when enlarged. Fixed it for you
     
  5. dhughens
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    Thanks, that is a lot better. Still would like someone to specifically I. D. the box, anyone??? dan...
     
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  6. AGELE55
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    That sir, is a genuine 1939 Pontiac steering box. I'll attach a couple pics of the one I removed from my 39. It's a dead nuts match
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  7. Malibu406
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    I was going to say it looks allot like my 1950 pontiac steering box.
     
  8. rusty valley
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    It looks to be installed in a ford frame, why? better ratio? just what someone had in stock?
     
  9. AGELE55
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    Lol...I think "in stock" equates to whatever I have laying around the garage that meets the basic criteria, which is "free".
     
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  10. Good job there AGELE55 !
     
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  11. dhughens
    Joined: Jan 28, 2015
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    dhughens

    Ageless, you are the man of the hour. Interestingly enough, the others who identified the ford frame are also correct. This is on a hotrod we acquired which has a Ford front suspension grafted to a 1917 Dodge frame and body cab section. The rear body half seems to be '28 Ford, the running gear is a '46 248 Pontiac straight 8 with a '37 top shifting 3spd manual trans. The radiator shroud is 23 Chev. A true build with what you have hotrod. It appeals to me because of its crudeness. If anyone can identify the year of the Ford front suspension, I would be extremely grateful. Thanks to everyone who responded. dan... $_57.JPG built with a cutting torch, arc welder, and not much else. If one of the Ford guys here could identify what year Ford front suspension this is I would be extremely grateful: hot rod stuff (0).jpg hot rod stuff (4).jpg hotrod front suspension (5).JPG hotrod front suspension (7).JPG hotrod front suspension.jpg
     
  12. alchemy
    Joined: Sep 27, 2002
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    Seems like we just talked about all this five years ago........

    The front half of the frame looks like 41-48 Ford. The axle is 33-36 Ford. Spindles are the same era, but there were a couple different measurements on the 36's so would need to look for part numbers stamped in them. The wishbones are 35-36 Ford. Shocks are Delco, and there were aftermarket kits/brackets to adapt them to Ford frames. The back half of the body is 26-27 Ford coupe with the roof cut off (not roadster).
     
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  13. dhughens
    Joined: Jan 28, 2015
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    Good observation alchemy, we did. I have not been able to confirm the sway bar arrangement. I found a pic of a claimed 46 Ford front suspension and steering gear that had a sway bar and am trying to determine if in fact it is a 46. It boils down to where do I buy links and bushings as the steering gear is real sketchy. I'd really like to have some pictorial info that shows the suspension/steering and what the various parts are called from a service manual or something. I don't know the terminology for the various links, etc., that is why I am trying to determine the year. However, I see from your description of the pieces that it is more of a hodgepodge. I've searched a fair amount but get confused as I don't know what the link pieces are called. Many thanks for your observations, it does help. If anyone has service manual pics or links to pages that describe early steering gear with diagrams, I'd be grateful. dan...
     
  14. mgtstumpy
    Joined: Jul 20, 2006
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    Here's my old 46 Oldsmobile box, appears to possibly be a generic GM item. LHD Box 46 Olds.jpg
     
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