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Technical Door Frames for 29 Model A Coupe Doors, scratch building them.

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by chev34ute, Aug 14, 2021.

  1. chev34ute
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    Hey Guys.

    In 2017 I started collecting parts for a 29 Coupe body, most of the parts are junk including the doors. My main gripe with the doors is not the ripples in skin which looks like they went through a fire or even the large dent along the centre above the swage, it’s the frames or lack there of.
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  2. chev34ute
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    Not long after getting the 29 Coupe parts, I got three 30 Tudor from the same seller. My original intention was to graft the door frames from the 30’s onto the 29, but the more I though about that idea, the less it made sense.

    Cutting up a perfectly good pair of 30 Tudor doors to repair the 29 doors just renders them worthless. The more I looked at them the more I started to think I could fabricate some new frames for them by using the 30 Tudor door as a guide.
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  3. chev34ute
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    The third 30 Tudor door is too rough to repair so it can be a partial donor if need be. I also have a badly botched attempt at doing a rear window that I can also cut up as well.
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  4. chev34ute
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    Since the length is the same, I am ***uming that the height of the 29 and 30 Tudor doors is also the same. Is this actually the case ? If not, is anyone able to give me me the dimensions of the overall height.
     
  5. Just a thought.....early Chevy doors were just wood frames that Fisher body tacked sheet metal on. It might be easier to build a hard wood door frame,and skin it with Ford outer sheet metal. Guess it comes down to what material you have the most experience working with.
     
  6. sloppy jalopies
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    in '28-'29 coupe and tudor used the same doors...
    in '30-'31 the tudor and truck used the same doors...
    both style tops will interchange to an extent...
     
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  7. hotrodjack33
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    If you're planning to start the build, I'd save the door repairs as one of the last things...hoping for better ones to some along
    in the meantime. It looks like a ton of work...and you know as soon as you DO repair them, a good pair will probably fall into your lap.;)
     
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  8. chev34ute
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    They are almost impossible to find, and even if I did find a set I can expect to pay around $800 AU for the pair. As far as repairing these ones go, this is my set up.

    The bead roller has enough combinations to do just about any swage.
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  9. chev34ute
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    The window section is for another project but you can see the similarity in the shape. I built a special hammer form with a length of round bar on the inside to make this window section and I will most likely do the same for the door frames.
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  10. lostone
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    from kansas

    With the tooling you have and the stuff you've already accomplished I'd say go for it and do a tech thread so we can follow along and see how it goes!
     
  11. hotrodjack33
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    Well, You certainly have the tools and skills to pull it off. I had no idea how rare those doors are in the AU. Good luck with the project
     
  12. chev34ute
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    We only got the Tudors and Sport Coupes here but even they weren’t that common. The most common Model A’s here were open cars, mostly 28/29 tourers.
     
  13. Another question that you can ask yourself...are you trying to closely duplicate Henry's production...or are you simply looking to build a door frame that will hold your door skin where it needs to be and open and close as it should. One door frame would be a lot easier to build than the other.
     
  14. ratreo
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    I have a pair of 1929 two door sedan doors which I believe are the same as the coupe. Overall they are in good condition both inside and out. As I live on the west coast of the United States maybe it was be worth trying to determine what the shipping would cost to send them your way...

    I’ve rebuilt a few pairs of doors creating pieces from scratch along with using ****py repop chinese metal or parts from other doors. It is a bunch of work. It’s satisfying when you finish up but I have spent days and weeks creating something that was originally stamped in two seconds.

    Just offering another option
     
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