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What's the deal on the For Sale Board with all the No Shipping stuff??

Discussion in 'Questions & Suggestions' started by CoalTownKid, Aug 17, 2006.

  1. CoalTownKid
    Joined: Mar 12, 2005
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    ....just wondering myself. I realize that many times people's busy lives harbor them from being able to ship items out, especially larger parts, etc. Been there myself. However, I have been seeing more and more fellow HAMBers posting items and within their ads posting (no shipping, or Will Not Ship??) has anyone else noticed this growing trend? I mean once guy I inquired upon told me he can easily ship the item, it was that he just didn't want to be bothered. What's with the lazyness?? I want the money but I'm to lazy to ship it?? As I stated before, if your life and work, etc. keep you from having the time to ship items, THAT is something completely different!!!

    Now let me gt this straight, (I'm sure I'll get a toungue lashing for this though!!),.....isn't the "For Sale" and "Wanted" page there at least in part, so we can help each other find the parts we need and maybe make a little dough when we have stuff we need to sell?? I think we need to be more accomodating then the sometimes seen and heard "I can't be bothered" at***ude. There have been at least four items recently wtihin the last few months from completely different sellers that I jumped on, only to realize that they weren't willing to ship the items?? I mean c'mon, when you have things like pedal ***emblies, a model A grill, shock mounts, etc....we're not talking 50lb. I Beam axles or full 50 merc bumpers here.

    Just needed to see if anyone else has been bothered by what i am seeing as a growing trend. maybe its just me.

    On a better note, every transaction both buying and selling on the HAMB has been GREAT!!! There are really some great cats hanging out here.....thanks to them and kudos! Well, just my two cents....

    Jason
     
  2. geoff solheim
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    Sometimes I would rather have the person buying something actually be there to see it. We all have different opinions of what "good" is, and it can save a lot of bad feelings not shipping a part across the country only to disappoint a buyer. Plus there is the laziness issue, I'm not going to spend an hour trying to find the proper container and packaging stuff for a $10.00 item
     
  3. CoalTownKid
    Joined: Mar 12, 2005
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    I agree on being able to "see" the part.

    As far as packaging,...a free box from the Priority Mail box bin at your local post office takes care of that. Some newspaper,....all free,....$10 dollar item or not,....I know myself that won't take an hour to do. Wouldn't you want someone to do the same fo yourself if you needed that $10 part?

    Again, I do agree on the visual though. Depending on what the item is, it can get sketchy!
     
  4. speedaddict
    Joined: Sep 28, 2002
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    from Austin, Tx

    I'd like to get a free box so I can ship this motor sitting in my garage....please?
     
  5. CoalTownKid
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    cool,...you need to re-read the post,.....nice one though:D
     
  6. ol fueler
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    Naaaaaaaaa! The No shipping is because it's fun to watch folks scramble around putting together a HAMB relay :D :D
     
  7. CoalTownKid
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    LOL!! There ya go! :D
     
  8. speedaddict
    Joined: Sep 28, 2002
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    from Austin, Tx

    I don't notice too many items that people are not willing to ship that can be shipped reasonably.... wanna link some examples?
     
  9. basically shipping is a pain in the *** , yep, you can get a box , BUT first you have to size it for a shipping quote, almost B4 you say how much it is , then you have to get time to take it down there -USPS, for me anything big has to be driven 13 mi away one way to the fedex /ups drop offs,(no ,they won't do home PU here for some reason),Mailable? I guesstimate, usually low ,but sometimes high ,oh well.. any extra covers my tape /gas etc .. In a lot of cases the sellers just can't be bothered w it- buy it n pick it up or p***, I most always will ship at my conveinence ,but some won't.
     
  10. houtex63
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  11. Nimrod
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    I'm guilty!

    I stopped selling anything on Ebay a couple years ago because I just hated to package and ship. It really is about an hour or so if you add up finding the box, doing a careful job packing, labeling it, and then shipping it off. I rarely post in the cl***ifieds here for that reason, I usually stick to craigslist. Helping people out is great...but I'm a busy son of ***** and cant justify spending the time I need to use on my own projects.

    I guess I'm just a *****...but offering it up to someone local is better than hauling it off to the dump.

    -Jeff
     
  12. Danimal
    Joined: Apr 23, 2006
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    I just went through a huge pain in the *** to dis***emble an X frame I had for Elrod so I could ship it from MI to TX. He was cool all the way through it but shipping was $15 more than the price of the part. He must have wanted it bad and I must have wanted to get rid of it bad because I spent two hours grinding and hammering out rivets and then wrapping and boxing it up.

    Kind of like the front ***embly I have that you'd like part of. I'm NOT going through it again so I'm saying, come see it and take it all! Heck, I'm willing to meet part way for some if they are reasonably close and I'm in Detroit 2-3 days per week for work.

    And gl*** is a pain in the ***! I've shipped 3 back door gl*** pieces to Kenosha Wisconsin for a guy and UPS has broken 2 of them! We are talking severely wrapped in about 10 layers of bubble wrap plus Fragile boxes. It just isn't worth the h***le for some parts. For others like hub caps and dash clusters, no sweat.

    I agree that some folks have to see it. I was really worried about the 48 Buick grill I just shipped last month. He was happy but I was still concerned until it got there that he would think otherwise.

    Good call though, some things can be shipped easily that aren't. On the other hand, if it is a whole pile of stuff and you want it all to go, come and get it works best!
     
  13. speedaddict
    Joined: Sep 28, 2002
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    from Austin, Tx

    yea...I'd like to get a free box to fit that in... I wouldn't want to ship that either. Basically, yes, I would love to help another HAMBer out but if I don't feel like shipping something I just won't. A lot of times I find myself misquoting the shipping costs because the box is too big or weighs more than I thought and I end up losing. I'm sure that may be the case for others also. not to mention the h***le if a part gets broken
     
  14. Danimal
    Joined: Apr 23, 2006
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    Craigslist rocks. I just got a wood stove out of my garage in 1 week after having it posted locally for a year! 15 minutes and it was loaded in the guys truck and he helped me roll a 327 on an engine stand into its place!
     
  15. don't feel bad i'm headed in the same direction, lack 0 time n procrastination are my worst enemy's
     
  16. buschandbusch
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    I'm guilty of it myself- but usually only on items that are very large, like motors, frames, etc. Getting that stuff palletized and dropped off at a shipping facility is a ridiculous h***le, and you NEVER know the actual charge til you drop it off


    As for large UPS shippable items, I don't have a box that can fit a T-Bucket bed or Model A grill shell- I have to scrounge one from a business around town, then buy bubble wrap, pack it up, double box it,etc. I just sold a hood and light bar and had to ship it in two boxes, and it took me literally an hour to get the rod out of the center of the hood and anothe hour to box it up, and had it not been for boxes from my job and bubble wrap from an eBay purchase I'd have had to buy those as well. I take the time to box stuff so that it won't get damaged

    I've also bought stuff that was thrown in with newspaper, and the results are NOT pretty, if you are willing to ship, you HAVE to be willing to spend a lot of time carefully packing these old vintage parts, not just throw some 30 pound items in a box without any packing.

    Another example, I have Model A axles still connected to wishbones and torque tube/steering components. Nobody wants to pick them up, but to ship them and sell individually I need to dis***emble, which would take the better part of a day to loosen, grind/cut the pieces apart and box them up. I just can't spare a day and STILL sell the parts for the same cost as before. I quoted a packing fee for each item to reflect that, but I guess nobody thought it was justified cause I still have everything! I'm just going to end up buying a frame (if i can find one LOCAL!!!!!) and use all the parts on a whole nother car; building a new one from my parts is actually easier than packaging everything up, arranging payment, shipping it, etc. Sad but true.

    The extra work is why I have to draw the line at no shipping, if I know I have to spend an hour to box up a $20 part, it's easier to sit on it until a local buyer comes along.

    not mention, shipping charges go up every day, and you quote somebody off the top of your head, and when you plug in the wieght and dimensions and residential delievery, etc., pretty soon you're losing money as well.......
     
  17. Harrison
    Joined: Jan 25, 2002
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    I understand that some folks don't have a post office or other shipper near by. I understand some don't have time to mess with it. (I have a pair of wishbones needing to be packed right now - payment arrived 4 days ago). I understand that some folks don't need the $$ as much as others & think if they can make an easy sale, they will. If not, it wasn't eating anything anyway.


    That being said... how many $10 & $20 parts take an hour to box up?

    If a seller is serious about selling, a willingness to ship will sure make it happen quicker.

    My time is worth something to me but when I'm faced with making a decent profit vs. not, I break out the tape & boxes. Any of us should have enough connections at the local NAPA or Car Quest that we should be able to scratch up a box if needed.

    The way I see it, if they have the $$, I'll find the time.

    JH



     
  18. chopt49
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    I for one get bugged by the no shipping thang too, but I fully understand it.

    I sold some 1939 rear fenders a year back to a guy in FL (I am in CA). he wanted them real bad! So I hunted down a LARGE box (motorcycle shops have BIG boxes) - then shipped via GreyHound Bus. Cost to ship was way cheaper than UPS or FedEXpensive.

    Just a thought to those who "will not ship" - try offering shipping if you have time and look at GreyHound.

    By the way folks, anybody want to ship me some nice doors from a clean 1949 Chevy :D

    ---my 2 cents---
     
  19. 49ratfink
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    from California

    I've shipped out close to 1900 items on ebay in the last few years. mostly small, but a few doors and inner fenders and such, along with some heavy and otherwise pain in the **** items.

    I get big heavy boxes from an air conditioning guy by me. major appliance boxes work well too... just cut them down and tape them back together. cardboard is much easier to work with than metal, so any good HAMB person should have no problem boxing thier junk up.
     
  20. breeder
    Joined: Jul 13, 2005
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    i shipped a 52 desoto from mo to cali..very much a pain in the ****. but he paid for it so i shipped it!!!no big deal..
    now im shippin the bumpers off that same car to seymour in texas..course i still need to get the back one off the car:rolleyes: waitin on my neighbor to bring his torch by!!!!and im being lazy:eek: ;) but if i put it on here for sale then i will ship..unless its a whole car..but i will help in anyway i can....
     
  21. Jason
    I think you pretty much answered it yourself. It seems like its more about makeing cash than building cars. But that's life I guess we can't all be idealists.;)

    I can't say that every deal I have ever made on the HAMB has been a good deal there are still a couple of folks out there that owe me but ya gotta take the good with the bad. I just don't deal with 'em any more and that's that.
    And I do have to say I have made some smokein' deals here. I got most of a roadster out in the garage right now and nearly everything has come from the HAMB. I'm in cheap which is a good thing as my funds are a little limited.

    Now onto a bigger n better things I just got a pair of door latches in the mail today I won't say from whom because I'm sure the man doesn't want everyone to know his business. But they were shipped for free and it was a real chore for the man to do it.
    So I can't say that everyone is out for a buck or is a lazy **** or both.

    Oh just so everyone will know I've shipped a bunch of stuff that I hear is a real ***** to ship. The only hard thing I've come across was a pair of wheels n tires to canada. I could have shipped the wheels easy but I had to fill out an extra piece of paper on the tires.
    #1
    The way I see it is be honest in your description and post pics. That does away with ya gotta see it first.

    #2
    if you don't want to ship then spend your 7 bucks and advertise it localy.
     
  22. corncobcoupe
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    My rules are short and to the point.

    My sales were about 4-5 months ago went just like this.

    I had it for sale with a price PLUS freight costs.
    I didn't weight anything and make a guestimate of the shipping cost which I relayed to the buyer on a agreeable cost to ship to be included in the payment, SO THERE WAS NO MISUNDERSTANDINGS.
    Communication was the key.

    When I actually got to ship it, If it was less, I made a bit extra.
    If it was more, I made a bit less.

    Amazingly - it about worked right for all 30 + packages I sent out.

    The only exception was the tires and I weighed them on my home scale and went to FedEx.com web site to get the rate and relayed to the buyer.

    I don't think I had anyone unhappy AT ALL.

    If I can't lift it - you come get it is my final policy.

    For those of you who don't make the time to ship - you lose 99.9% of your buyers and the question I have is ...WHY would you want to do that on a national web site ?
    Especially for things you can box up.. I mean COME ON- Jeez.

    Cob
     
  23. CoalTownKid
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    That is a good honest point, but that's the problem with it, why offer it on a NATIONAL website?? All I can say is, untill the "Teleporters" come out from AT&T (along with the "******itrons"!! :eek:),....you'll still need to ship stuff, plain and simple. If you don't want to ship stuff, you need to put that right in your ***le, LOCAL PICKUP ONLY,....or, just advertise it somewhere else, that's all. No big deal.

    All in all, I just thought this was something that needed to be addressed. I had just noticed more and more ads popping up with the "no shipping" attached to them when you opened the ad up,....its a real waste when you click on three in a row and all of them describe how the seller doesn't want to ship stuff. It pisses me off when I see a foot pedal or abracket or something that will take almost NO TIME to package up and ship and its that part you can REALLY use, and the guy won't take the fifteen minutes out of his day to package it up and ship it to ya!! Total BS. Of course if the shoe was on the other foot you better be damn sure that same person would be wishing you shipped out to him!

    If I have something I'll always ship it to ya, even if its a h***le for me,.....been there too!! Unless there's somekind of problem with me physically or otherwise!!:D ...but that's just me!

    Jason
     
  24. cadzilla
    Joined: May 27, 2005
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    i agree i have just sold my first few things on the hamb and i can not help th price of shipping ,,..... i guess we need to find good cheap shipping place anybody now of one but it is annoy when you find the part you are lookig for and at the end of the thread they say no shipping.. o well there loss.
     
  25. banditomerc
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    C`mon guys,in the end it is the almighty $.If you want or need that part so bad... and your fellow "Hamber" won`t ship.....offer more to get them of their ***...you would be suprised how a $10.00 spot will do the trick.If you calculate your time at the swapmeet or wrecking yard to locate and pull the part in question...how much are you talking about.....Stop complaining..capitalism lives on!!!
     
  26. NYCDrums
    Joined: Aug 10, 2004
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    Right! It's getting ridiculous.

     

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