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Projects 16x6 ford 5x4.5 bolt pattern

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Omarsvette, Dec 17, 2021.

  1. Omarsvette
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    Does anyone make this wheel that’s not unilug? At us wheel or wheel vintiques they make it but with dual bolt pattern. I’m looking for the 40s ford wheel or something similar traditional style for my 16x7.50 excelsior tires. The tires say 6” max wheel.
     
  2. Ford offered 16" wheels as an option in the early '50s with the 4.5-on-5 bolt pattern but good luck finding some....
     
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  3. Primered Forever
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    Hard to find but look for mid late 40s International 1/2 ton pickups. 16 inch 5X4.5 pattern. Ford caps will even fit
     
  4. alchemy
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    The International wheels weren't 6" wide though. And the '49 Ford wheels were probably only 5" wide as well. I've got some of each, but never put a tape to them.
     
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  5. jimmy six
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    Wheelsmith in Corona, Ca.
     
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  6. Omarsvette
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    Yes that’s the company I was looking for. I couldn’t remember the name. Thank you
     
  7. Don't sleep on Jimmy (Wheelkid) who's an Alliance member here:

    https://rallyamerica.com/

    ***uming you wanting to run capless (???) Jimmy even made a neat fix for the multi-lug wheel conundrum some time back, but I don't think they are available anymore:
    Screenshot_20211217-195453-748.png

    Another option mentioned above was IH pickup wheels, but they are getting extremely scarce. I have 15" split rims on my pickup now being replaced by common Mopar 1pc 15x5 rims and Cal-Custom baby moons 'cause finding a set of IH 15" 1pc wheels to run my original hubcaps on is becoming tedious.

    Another option is Jeep Cherokee 16x4 spare steelies, I think through the 90s. Your 7.50s will probably look pinched on them, but if you needed wider wheel, find any other full size 16x5 or 16x6 spare with the same inside diameter, punch the centers out of all parties, and weld the Jeep centers into the wider hoops. The Jeep spares are the only ones I've come across in 16" that didn't have a bunch of holes around the perimeter.
    Screenshot_20211217-205853-559.png
     
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  8. gimpyshotrods
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    I have used the hoops from Chrysler minivan wheels to make wider Wide-5's.

    If the diameter of the donor centers matches, those might work.

    They are 16" x 6-1/2", with safety beads.
     
  9. gimpyshotrods
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    Just a safety note on those, for disclosure:

    Those have one safety bead, on the outer lip.

    There isn't one on the inner.
     
  10. Good to know!! Thanks for that insight. I would be inclined to use just the centers out of these then and find a suitable hoop. 6 1/2 seems to be the standard width on most late model car steel rims (as Gimpy mentioned on the minivan rims) with exception to maybe some Asian brands. Camrys and Scions come to mind. I think I've measured some in the neighborhood of 5" to 6" wide. Wish I had center diameter(s) on hand...
     
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  12. hotrodjack33
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    Here's a great (cheap) trick for running 16" steel rims on your rod with a Ford 4.5 bolt pattern. I used a set of 1940 Dodge 16' rims on my Sedan Delivery when I first built it . 30's-40's Mopar rims use a 4.5 bolt pattern same as later model Ford 8', 9' rears(& Mustang II's) and bolt right up. The Mopar rims use "clips" to hold the hubcaps on, so I simply cut the guts out of the Mopar and Ford hubcaps and mounted the Mopar guts into the Ford caps.

    Finally got sick of the adventurous driving with bias ply tires and went to radials... sold them to a buddy of mine and they are still on his '32 5 window (600-16 & 750-16)
     
  13. mrspeedyt
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    i think the late model crown vic rims are 16” w/ standard ford bolt pattern. i got a set for my OT scion but they have too much off set. when i get back to kingman i’ll try to measure the rim width and offset.
     
  14. big duece
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    They are around but rare...
     
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  15. JeffB2
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  16. Mr48chev
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    I snagged some inch wheels and tires off an abandoned and ditched 49 Ford when I was a teenager only to find that they were 6 inch when I got home with them. I think I finally gave those away to someone who was hurting for a tire at the time.
    I'd say that it shouldn't be that hard to find the international truck wheels though.
     
  17. gimpyshotrods
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  18. deathrowdave
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    I my Power Wagon had 16x6 4.5 BC but used late style Mopar caps
     
  19. I bought a 1951 Ford business coupe, with non-opening quarter windows when I got out of the Army in 1961. It had 16" wheels on it.
     
  20. Glenn Thoreson
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    '49, '50 Ford p***enger car.
     
  21. big duece
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    6" wide on a '50 p*** car? It's hard enough to find 5" wide 16s from the trucks.
     

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