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History Late ‘40s T Hot Rod Found

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by FlyinA, Feb 22, 2022.

  1. junkman8888
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    I've never seen a garage so completely packed with crap. The questions I have are;

    When you first opened the garage, how many times did you tell yourself whatever is in there can't possibly be worth it?

    Did you have that dark thought that maybe, just maybe, the car was actually sold thirty years ago and you're only going to find out after spending all day moving junk?

    In the ad for the car instead of saying "bring some friends and cash" did it say "bring a front-end loader and a roll-off dumpster"?
     
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  2. Stogy
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    :rolleyes:...maybe...

     
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  3. Hillbilly Werewolf
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    Close, rear bones are different and grill guard/ headlights are different, but has holes in the same spot where this one is mounted.

    Is what you have uncovered of the original build paint a dark green, or an oxidized black/blue?
     
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  4. Ron Plumlee
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    Dang, this has to be post of the year.....what a find, what a story
     
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  5. FlyinA
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    I’ve looked at that picture close before.. along with what you said the hood also looks like a 4 piece, while the one on this car is a 3.

    The color is the definitely the build color, there’s some over spray on the back of the gauges and on the newspapers in the doors. It’s also on the hood panels and grille.

    It’s more of a dark teal with a slight bit of metallic in in it. I think the original body color was the drab green/gray Ford used in 26/27.
     
  6. FlyinA
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    Actually when we got there the garage looked like it did in the picture where you can see it next to the Dodge. They had scrappers coming in loading stuff up for multiple days before. They were nice enough guys and said they tried to leave anything car related that they could. They were actually there at the same time as us so it was quite the day
     
  7. Stogy
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    There is no Headlights Hillbilly, those and the Windshield I suspect are removed for maximum speed...I also upon scrutiny note the side panels are slightly taller in the Dry Lakes pic...the gals foot is blocking how the forward bone attaches...some of the changes I thought might be just things done over time...I love the triple jogged rear bones...just a treasure trove of vintage ingenuity...Love it..Love it...Love it!!
    I am very surprised he didn't have any pics squirreled away somewhere...Regarding the near clone in the pic, that's a classic case of the inspiration of Hotrod without a doubt...I'd like to know where he was towing it...
     
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  8. Squablow
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    Amazing, the pictures are really great!
     
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  9. The green & blue/green metallics were quite popular in the late 40s early 50s. When I saw the Green on the sill plate I immediately thought of the Green T from 'Birth of Hot Rodding' book. The cowl fuel tank lid has been filled. The hoodsides are similar but not the same. There are a few cars in Don Montgomery 's books that are close to Ray Fox T.
     
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  10. Stogy
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    Yeah the filled tank lid...missed that completely...
     
  11. OH MY! What a find! Keep us jealous as progress is made. Or just PM me to come get it!
     
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  12. Malcolm
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    Oh man, what a cool find!!
     
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  13. FlyinA
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    71985E56-85BE-453E-889A-5A36B43C005B.jpeg E90BB317-2546-44CF-BF6F-1846EB8634F1.jpeg I think these pics are of the same T in the Birth of Hotrodding
     
  14. FlyinA
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    History’s been hard to find since Ray Fox was not the builder, he would have been too young, so it could’ve been built anybody
     
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  15. Pat
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    Wow! Incredible find! I immediately thought of the green t in Cox's book also.
     
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  16. hudsonjoe49
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    3DD768B9-1978-47FC-83FD-125C28D92655.jpeg Check this one out.
     
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  17. Rickybop
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    I just luuuv a '26 '27 T roadster on a Model A chassis.
     
  18. ModelARon
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    great car love it
     
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  19. 48fordnut
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    Glad it was found. Thanks for sharing.

    Thanks,

    jim
     
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  20. Stogy
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    @FlyinA...I went through two of the Hambs heavy hitter Dry lakes Threads quite thoroughly both foreground and background with no slam dunks...Tons of Ts including many of the the Teal T shared...

    There are Numerous other Threads amongst the Archives that may yield fruit but I thought I would let you know to save a search even though I recommend anyone here who seriously reveres early post war Hotrod to check the threads out as recommended reading...

    https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/lakes-pictures-p-r-c.943878/

    https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/old-hot-rods-photos.1038554/
     
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    From the pictures in the Birth of Hotrodding it appears that the cowl vent has been filled in the photos that you have posted here. The cowl vent on your roadster has not been filled in. Perhaps if you could get additional, more detailed, and closer views of the same car, it would be much more helpful in doing a comparison.

    I have an original dry lakes 1927 roadster and I spent close to ten years of searching through numerous books and pictures, before I finally found the dry lakes history of the car. It was purely by accident and I found the history from a post here on the HAMB. I know these books are now getting somewhat pricey but the Don Montgomery books are a very valuable aid, in looking for historical information. I would suggest building your library before you start building your car.
     
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  24. dart4forte
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    Are you going back to sort through the garage?
     
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  25. Stogy
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    dumpstered...with instruction to not dump car parts...
     
  26. Stogy
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    Do you have a Thread @quickchangeV8...or even a few pics?...
     
  27. These images are all of Sam Broiler T, photos of 176 are from 1947. Hudson Joe's picture likely taken on the Pasadena Reliability Run, Sam was a member of Pasadena Roadster Club.

     
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  28. hudsonjoe49
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    Check out the rear spring. B344412A-03F2-462B-B540-E737295423AB.jpeg
     
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  29. Stogy
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    That mod was pretty popular on the Roaring Roadsters...

    There is even a possibility it was one...Apparently a lot did Street duty while doubling as racers...

    Is Flyin's T rough around the wheelwell are like that one?

    I was looking for key features like that...missed that one... and the gas filler door is intact...
     
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  30. Stogy
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    Bttt...Search your old Hotrod photos...;)
     

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