I MEAN Bore axles to Early Banjo.... Sorry about typos... I have tudor with modified rear axle 36 middle banjo (changed to open drive. ) And outer part of tubes, axles, brakes etc from 48 f1. all new brake parts. I ***ume that to differential new bore bushings for bore axles were welded.. Due the mod spider gears do not work and has been thrown away and now its 100% lock -->terrible to drive. Is there kits or easy way to modernize Early ford diff For f1 driveshafts??? Reason is, that i have new open main drive shaft, supports made for that axle, and retro look. Or is only right way to replace axle even, that it leads to built again axle supports, maybe driveshaft is then wrong lenght etc...? I am looking for 3.25-3.54 ratio and not atleast 100% lock I try to add photos
Not sure I understand completely what you are asking but your English is good compared my no Finnish speaking! Hot Rod Works in Idaho carries replacement spiders and other parts. Ring and Pinion Gear Sets- Hot Rod Works
Depending on how the welded diff was done, maybe they didn't modify the ring gear. If it is original, you could buy a new differential housing and spider gear set, then machine those for the new side gears that accept the slide in axles. Hot Rod Works in Idaho could help you with all those parts and machining services. Hopefully your axles are the correct length to work with their new side gears.
Is there on the market 19 spine (ford F1) spider gear kit, what fits to original -36 carrier??? (I think its quite easy to shorten axles, if needed... ) is there on the market complete ford -36 carrier, where 19spine axles fits???
My carrier is somehow welded together. I cant even split it. I prefer think my axles are too long than too short. As there is no spider gear at all. Seems that inside carrier is spline bushing trough. (2piece).
You are using the wrong terminology. When you say "driveshafts" you mean to say "axles". In the US and other English speaking parts of the world, the driveshaft is the link between the transmission and the rear axle housing. I am 99% sure nobody makes a new differential that will bolt to your original ring gear, or fit into that banjo housing. As I said before, you should contact Hot Rod Works in Idaho for parts and service. https://www.hotrodworks.com/
Ok.. sorry... I did send message, no reply. I think ring gear machining is not huge work. Eaton have simple looking lock units... So far seems that hard to find diff for 36 with 48 f1 axles
A '48 F-1 pickup didn't have slide in axles like your conversion seems to show. A '48 still had the tapered end axles. I have no idea what your axles came from though. Please show a photo of the end of your axle housing. Maybe someone welded on a bearing housing end that we can figure out.
https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/1948-1952-ford-f1-truck-rear-axles.1001098/ Looks same... Some more photos also on top. There can be seen,how spline bushings has been welded to carrier. Also spider gears removed. For me it feels that halfs are welded together. Cant split it Outer ends, backing plates, juice brakes and axles from 48 f1 told previous owner here from hamb
That does look like someone chopped the bells off and grafted on the tubes and ends from a later housing
I'm pretty sure the 48 F-1 rearend is a Dana 44 (or maybe 41). Early Dana rearends from this era did have 19 spline axles. So it appears OP Tonic has most likely a hybrid axle that has Dana 44 tube ends welded to the banjo inner. I can't say what was done on the carrier and it's conversion to be a Lincoln locker.
I guess you are right. http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/flathead_drawings_rearends.htm That makes your problem even worse. I'd bet nobody has a ready made solution to your differential problem. You might need to source a new original differential carrier yourself, some inner gears from the same truck that donated the axles, and bore the new differential yourself to make them fit in there. Hopefully they mesh up with the stock spider gears. I do know that mesh problem is what made Hot Rod Works design and produce their own side gears for their slide in conversions.
Hotrod works did answer... I wait quot. 3.25 gear set +6 spline open drive yoke (mine is 10 if i remember right. Could it be that even differential is newer 36?? Not 6 spline...) No big deal.. -used carrier -11 teeht spider gears 28 spline bigger gears -Bearing set -seal +28 spline /30" axles With axles question is As i have outer end of my axle tubes from -48 f1 i need similar axles what comes to lenght,bearing location,seals bolt pattern of adapter plate and wheel. Diameter of the axle need to match offcourse to gears What axle is same than f1 except splines from (f150 some years?) I really want to keep original axle and these backing plates,brakes as those are new.. Most of the parts here https://www.hotrodworks.com/product-category/axle-conversions/ Does this company have reasonable pricing...? Spider gears looks damn expensive as in ebay spiders are average round 100usd.
Hotrod works was thinking (if i did understand them ) That i can manage, if i buy ford f1 19 spline axle gears 2 pcs. And machine those to fit to -36 carrier. Do i need then 11 teeth (4 pcs) with those? Is there space? And were to get correct set ?? Tot 6 gears
Theoretically solved... I did get original matching early diff+axles. + Spare axle. To diff and gear wheel is need for Just small enlargement and f1 axles goes trough. Then cut off axle gears. Rally car workshop fix bores match to f1 shafts.
Are you sure they are f1 axle housinhs and backing plates ? If your axle bearing retainer ( on the brake backing plate )is flat on top , it could be a 9” ford , I think . Speedway has a picture of different axle earing plates .
I am told so. And its 19 spline/about 1.25"/30" Whole outer part of axle tube+axle is -48 f1 according previous owner 9" gear kit in hotrodworks seems to be for 28 spline axle Typically seems that mods have been done for 28 spline axles. Mine from some reason 19. It explain why there was bushings/100% lock welded to diff. There were no spider gears available. I think original gears will last long and half price of those custom spider gear sets. Top of gears would be needed axles.. (does new bearings/brake drums etc fit then. i dont know...
you just need axle gears for f1 pickup, early willys jeep is the same. 19 spline dana 44. then you need a new carrier, bore the carrier through to fit the axles, then counterbore each half to fit the side gears, you will have to face .030-.060 off the inside faces of the carrier halves out to the side axle od. you may have to grind the od of the axle gears down to fit inside the carrier as well. I built one of these axles for my roadster. This conversion is an old trick that is well do***ented here with articles etc. Look up banjo slide in axles hamb on google.
Thanks I will look that option also. Issue is that F1 gears and carriers are in US and I am at Finland. And summer is coming. At home I have that complete early diff. and carrier.+axles Otherwise works seems to be about same. With stock diff I need to bore it and gear just a bit bigger to get axles trough and to cut from axle and make bores to original axle gears.
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