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Technical Dodge Hemi cam interchangeability

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by rat bastad, Apr 10, 2022.

  1. Quick qun Hemi guys - will a 1956/57 Dodge 315/325 Dodge Hemi cams work in 1956/57 330/341 Desoto Hemi engines?

    Thanks !
     
  2. Stan Back
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    I don't think so, but will leave it to the Hemi experts to qualify it. I am conscious of the fact that Chrysler exported (and/or foreign-built) certain models of Dodges and called them DeSotos. And made more vice versa -- and more vices and versas. And you're asking from Australia . . .
     
  3. Fordors
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    I think the three early Hemi blocks are different dimensionally all the way around, Chryslers are the biggest, the Dodge is a bit smaller and the DeSoto the smallest. The cams are different lengths so they won’t interchange between the Dodge and DeSoto. In addition if a cam is from a low deck engine cam timing will be screwed up in a tall deck block and vice versa.
     
  4. sunbeam
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    Only tall deck dodge hemis and polys
     
  5. Stan Back
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    . . . but is his Australian DeSoto a Dodge?
     
  6. Fordors
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    I posted the info above from memory but there is an error, the DeSoto is larger than the Dodge. Rocker shafts tell the tale, the DeSoto shafts measure 18 & 5/16” and the Dodge are only 17 & 3/16”.
     
  7. Size wise,,,,,,Dodge,,,,,Desoto,,,,,Chrysler,,,,,,small to large in that order .
    Nothing,,,,,almost nothing interchanges .

    And he did ask about the Hemi engines specifically,,,,,,to my knowledge all Hemis were branded as their respective divisions,,,,,,no rebadging for other countries .

    Tommy
     
  8. Fellas its a Desoto Hemi 330 tall deck; I'm aware of the block/size/borespacing differences between Dodge/Desoto/Chrysler, but my question was specific to the larger Dodge/Desoto cams compatibility.

    I remember reading somewhere that the bigger Dodge Red Rams and the tall deck Desotos cams were interchangeable.

    Maybe the memory aint what it used to be :)
     
  9. TRENDZ
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    No. The bore spacing is different between the divisions. A cam for a Chrysler is longer than a Desoto, the Desoto is longer than the Dodge.
     
  10. Trendz , I guessed that this would be the case, thanks for the confirmation.
     
  11. It’s not your memory,,,,,they just won’t fit .
    Almost nothing,,,,,,,interchanges !
    Maybe a few bolts and such,,,,,,a few odds and end parts,,,,,nothing of any consequence .
    The only thing those two engines have in common are they are both Hemi tall deck blocks,,,,,still doesn’t interchange .

    Tommy
     
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  12. Stan Back
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    . . . but what I was (trying) to say was that Chrysler sent many Dodges overseas badged as DeSotos.

    Maybe just measuring the length of the cam might confirm that the DeSoto engine is really a Dodge.

    (Yes, I knew all along about the interchangeability, but maybe a Dodge cam will fit an Australian DeSoto. Now we gotta find someone who knows the length of the hemi's cams.)
     
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  13. Here are a few pics of my Desoto cam,,,,it measured approximately 20 1/5 inches,,from the rear journal up to the front behind the plate.
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    Tommy
     
  14. cpraceman
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  15. cpraceman
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    Each company made their engines enough different the cams will not interchange.
    The bigger issue is that they are ground on different lifter bank angles.
     
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  16. George
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    If you are sure about the ID of the cam & the block the answer is no. I don't think any hemis were sold in Australia, believe all were 6s in that timeframe. Engine was probably imported later.
     
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