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Projects 1930 Buick Wood removal. V-12 Sedan Build

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Essex_29, Mar 9, 2021.

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  1. chessterd5
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    All the metal work is fantastic!
     
  2. Great build keep the updates coming.
     
  3. Essex_29
    Joined: Dec 27, 2007
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    Nice, @Rj27buick I like all fun, out of the ordinary engine swaps.
    Thank you @chessterd5 that warms my heart! And @Hot Rod Ron , I'll update as soon as there's anything going on.

    Today they called from the laser cutting company. I got the parts I had drawn, and boy, do they look professional!
    flanges2.jpg

    I tried to lay out the parts like in my previous post. I've planned to make the exhaust modular, so that I can easily change to a different type of muffler with just unbolting 6 bolts (after the replacement part is done, obviously), hence the amount of small flanges.The bigger 2-1/2" ones will be used at the collectors, and also on other projects., probably. I'm planning on running 2" exhausts, the engine is pretty small, at about 302 cubic inches, and I want the V-12 to howl through those thin pipes, expecting a very odd combination of look and sound when all is said and done.
    Also I'm planning on getting the distributors done, and that's quite the project in itself.
     
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  4. Essex_29
    Joined: Dec 27, 2007
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    More of the V-12 flavour here @1952henry , just saying.
    Trying to figure out how to modify a pair of FordCologne V6 distributors to fit the camshafts of my Bavarian engine.
    Here's the ford Distributor shaft:
    D02b.jpg
    I plan to cut it and mount a plate to it:
    D02c.jpg
    Here, the same distributor axle is drawn connecting to the camshaft via the part to the left
    (bolt goes into the camshaft)
    : D03b.jpg
    This is the housing for the original distributor: D04.jpg
    And it will have to connect to the Ford housing. Plans not really clear on this, I'm still waiting for some good ideas to pop up.
    . D04c.jpg
    This is what's going on in my head night and day now.
    So, I'd better go out and wash the acid off the parts for the intake. I'm chamically removing mill scale from the plenum parts, and the tube bends for the intake. The intake tube bends are 1-5/8"weldable steel water pipe, the rest is ordinary mild steel.
     

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  5. Essex_29
    Joined: Dec 27, 2007
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    Since the last post, I've acquired a pair of slant six distributors. I might use them, because the Ford ones are new and made in China, and the quality doesn't feel all that good. Sixties stuff seem to work ok most of the time.

    Intake time. I started working in the intake runners a couple days ago, cutting sort pieces with a supposed 13 degree angle, then a 37 degree angle of a pipe bend. Of course doing this cutting free hand with a simple jig, the angles were more or less off, all of them.
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    -I ended up cutting and adjusting, then tacking a piece and a bend. 6 pieces were an average length, the six others were off, either shorter or longer, and got dedicaed third parts to compensate. (A)
    -Then they were welded to make 12 equal length runners. 36 pieces of tubing, bad engineeering, I should have them from two, instead of three pieces, but there you go. (B)
    -All 24 welds were ground off, and the insides were smoothed with a small grinder with a rotating file. (C)
    buick141b.jpg
    I had to check for clearance for the intake bolts under the plenum floor. This will be enough, but the intake will be very tall.
     
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  6. Essex_29
    Joined: Dec 27, 2007
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    I took the intake off the engine to tack the intake runners to the flanges.
    buick141c.jpg
    The intake flanges are tacked together with sheet metal pieces to keep their relative angle when off the engine.

    When eight runners were tacked to the intake flanges, it was all bolted back to the heads. Simple intake by the way, no water and no exhaust in it.
    After some measuring and planning, a plywood template was cut with a hole saw, and holes for the intake runners were cut with the plasma in the plenum floor piece. buick142.jpg

    The plenum is designed short, and the outermost runners will turn into the ends of the plenum by using tube bends cut to fit to the plenum end pieces. Form over function, but I think it will look good.
    The holes in the plenum floor will be ground to fit loosely around the runnes, and the conjunctions will be ground round and smooth to promote air flow over the awkward angles.
    Hoping to be able to weld this, without warping the flanges too much.
    Lucky me, I received an Edelbrock 500cfm 1404 in the mail today, now I just have to find another one. I got lucky and found a good as new-used one. They are pretty expensive, Remanufactured ones are like $550 a pop here.
     
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  7. Nice progress!
     
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