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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Spike788, Jul 22, 2022.

  1. I'm certain I have a 29 Model A. Just not sure if it's a sport, standard, etc. All I know is that it's a 29. Has been chopped. Can anyone help determine that for me? Asking so I know which interior wood kit to buy. Much appreciated.
     

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  2. 19Eddy30
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    Std Coupe,
    Is there wood still in ,
    Roof
    Rear window
    Quarter windows
    Above door
    Header wood above windshield
    B pillar afew other places ,
    Most of the A venders should have break down on wood locations.
     
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  3. HOTRODPRIMER
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    Yeah, it's a coupe. HRP
     
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  4. I have no wood as is. Just need to know which particular model (standard, sprt, special, etc) so I know which wood kit to buy. I basically just want to install enough wood on the interior (especially around the windows) to get the upholstery done. Or do you have to install the entire wood kit on the interior? Is it possible to just install the wood around the windows only?
     

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  5. D-Russ
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    Yes, it's a coupe, but the bead that runs under the quarter windows and back window has been removed for some reason. I'd be curious what's under that insulation.
     
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  6. Corn Fed
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    I bet it started out as a "leatherback" coupe which had a lot of wood holding the quarter window panels and basically made up the whole rear window. But someone installed the rear window section most likely from a sedan to make it all metal. Under all that insulation you will find a bunch of welds.
     
  7. dmar836
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    Looks like it might have started as a “Special Coupe” and someone just welded the top on.
     
  8. RICH B
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    The are garnish moldings that go around the quarter and rear windows, should round up a set of them and chop them to match. When looking be aware that '28 & '29 are different than '30 & '31.

    From the work shown in your pictures; I would think it would be easier making your own pieces vs. trying to make original type pieces work.

    Most importantly; I would have your trimmer look at it and see what he needs.
     
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  9. Hitchhiker
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    I responded on your Reddit post, but I have a set of garnish moldings for that thing...
     
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  10. RB35
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    Try Bratton's website for parts. They sell wood kits too.
     
  11. 19Eddy30
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    Like other mention if not originally standard coupe model , wood different other models of coupes , so you will have to do research on what wood same then make own or modified pieces not
     
  12. Stan Back
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    Moving the radiator back towards where it came from would make it a lot more handsomer.
     
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  13. hotrodjack33
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    Hmmm...yeah, that's not a Standard Coupe. Note the missing beltline under the 1/4 window that should run all the way around the back of the roof. That body was a Special Coupe or a Sport Coupe with a roof added to it. 0.jpg 0.41.jpg
     
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  14. Hotrodmyk
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    As above, I have to guess it started as a "Special Coupe". Too much around the back has been changed.
     
  15. sloppy jalopies
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    putting my money on it being a std coupe, sedan rear window [they removed the qtr to tulip T strips...]
     
  16. Ok fellas. Thank you. Anyone else? Trying to get as much input as possible. I appreciate any further thoughts from anyone.
     
  17. Since it seems slightly unclear as to exactly what parts your coupe is made up from, if I were in your position I think I'd be inclined to study pics of how Model A's are wooded then make my own wood components.
     
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  18. pprather
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    It looks like the structural wood has been somewhat replaced with 1"x1" tubing. Can you confirm?
    I would start, as suggested, by figuring out how you will mount the quarter and rear window garnish mouldings.

    In addition to adding structural support, the original wood provided a surface to tack the interior cloth and screw the garnish moldings.
     
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  19. Yes there is steel tubing along the interior roof.
     

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  20. panhead_pete
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    Post more pics of the interior after removing that insulation, almost looks like its been partially steeled out.

    If its structually sound why do you need a wood kit?
     
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  21. Stogy
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    He wants interior attach points...I'm not up on interior installs but anchoring panels to framing gives a glue and screw base...question is, is there enough tubing.

    The other question is, is there enough tubing installed to take care of what the wood did as it was structural and well as an interior attach point as @pprather said

    My 29 Sport Coupe has no wood with metal added to replace the removal...I have many interior panels still lacking and will have to be crafty should I ever add them.
     
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  22. alchemy
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    You bought somebody else's unfinished hot rod. They made unusual modifications to that leatherback coupe body, and no stock wood kit is going to fit directly in there. I think it's close enough to a steelback now that you could start with a steelback kit. But be aware there will be modifications needed.

    Or, if you are a good woodworker, maybe you can craft your own from pictures. There are plenty of restorer websites with pics posted of the guys installing wood. I recently made the rear window surround wood for a 32 five-window instead of buying a kit, because I wanted it different than original. Took me about $20 in good lumber, and a couple evenings of work. I have a table saw I used for the overlapping joints, and a bandsaw to cut the curves in the openings around the window. A beltsander will be handy too.
     
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  23. Stogy
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    :rolleyes:...this video showcases a Special Coupe to Coupe conversion but your's has drip rails added or the complete roof may be a donor...

    The video also shows the roof without it's Vinyl which exposes attach points that may be present under your interior noise/weather proofing...​
     
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  24. footbrake
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    What a beautiful job you did.
     
  25. Mo rust
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    You can tell if it's a regular coupe or a leatherback by its production date. What's the vin with the except for the last few numbers?
     
  26. Corn Fed
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    How can you do that?
     
  27. indyjps
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    The car has been modified enough that regular wood kit won't be direct fit.

    Wood kits are expensive, if you end up only using a little of it or still modifying it, you'll be pissed

    Let's see it without insulation.

    Best option may be to keep going with steel. If you have light box section of steel, you can plan your interior panels to use plastic christmas tree clips to pop into holes in steel. Can also use stainless shouldered washer screws - you can buy them with caps, look at some marine upholstery places, all kinds of cool stuff.
    Snap panels on like a boat cover too.

    There was a great thread recently on making fibergl*** headliner - they need to be split to fit into car.
    Consider you could lay up vertical interior panels with attachment points - As the base to cover with upgolstery..
     
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