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Projects 1964 Plymouth Belvedere

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by mlinton1941, Jul 25, 2022.

  1. mlinton1941
    Joined: Oct 17, 2012
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    how do I go about finding value on a car I recently required ?
     

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  2. COCONUTS
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    COCONUTS

    Whatever you paid for it, that is what it is worth to you. To other's who knows, but if you really like that make, model, and year, who cares. I can see AWB
     
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  3. Dan Timberlake
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    For insurance porpoises ?
    Haggerty took our stated value on a 1960 Studebaker Hawk.

    It looks real solid. Nice find.
     
  4. goldmountain
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    I paid $300 for one just like that but without the side trim back in 1974.
     
  5. corncobcoupe
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    You mean the one that you just put in the cl***ifieds for sale for 10,000 bucks?

    Need a lot more details.
    Motor frozen, clutch, wheels roll or frozen, floors gone, mouse nests, wiring etc etc etc.???
     
  6. corncobcoupe
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    Per Collector Car Market …..


    1964 PLYMOUTH BELVEDERE 318-230hp (8cyl-2V) AT
    Condition #4 - #3 - #2 - #1

    2dr Htp 5225 9550 14400 23100
    2dr Sdn 4100 7350 10900 17700
    4dr Sdn 3100 5650 8600 13800
    4dr Wgn 4825 8500 12100 19800
    Add:
    361-265hp (8cyl-2V) 5 %
    383-330hp (8cyl-4V) 25 %
    426-365hp (8cyl-2V) 75 %
    4spd manual trans 5%
    Air conditioning 10%
    Power windows 3%
    Deduct:
    225-145hp (6cyl-1V) -15%
    3spd manual transmission -10%
    Manual steering -3%

    Profile Condition Truck Table
     
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  7. corncobcoupe
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    Condition Guidelines
    These are condition guidelines to help ***ess a vehicle's condition. Keep in mind that there are many factors that affect value. For example, a "barn find" may on the surface look like a #4 or #5 vehicle, but it's time capsule character often means it is worth far more than it's condition would normally warrant.

    #1 Excellent: A close to perfect original or a very well restored vehicle. Generally a body-off restoration, but a well done body-on restoration that has been extensively detailed may qualify. The vehicle is beautiful to look at and any flaws are trivial and not readily apparent. Everything works as new. All equipment is original, NOS, or excellent quality reproductions. Note: cost no object concours restorations should be considered 1+ condition.

    #2 Very Good: An extremely presentable vehicle showing minimal wear, or a well restored vehicle. Runs and drives smooth and tight. Needs no mechanical or cosmetic work. All areas (ch***is not required) have been fully detailed. Beautiful to look at but clearly below a #1 vehicle.

    #3 Good: Presentable inside and out with some signs of wear. Not detailed but very clean. Body should be straight and solid with no apparent rust and absolutely no rust-through anywhere. Shiny, attractive paint but may have evidence of minor fading or checking or other imperfections. Runs and drives well. May need some minor mechanical or cosmetic work but is fully usable and enjoyable as is.

    #4 Fair: Runs and drives OK but needs work throughout the vehicle. Body shows signs of wear or previous restoration work. Any rust should be minimal and not in any structural areas. Conversely, the vehicle may be fairly presentable, but needs moderate mechanical work to be roadworthy. Cosmetics, body, and mechanics all need work to some degree.

    #5 Poor: In need of complete restoration, but is complete and not a rust bucket beyond repair. May or may not run. Not even close to roadworthy. Values for #5 cars are best estimated on a case by case basis, typically around 40-50% of the #4 condition. Rare models or models containg rare parts can be worth more.

    Parts or Salvage: Incomplete vehicle most useful for parts. Generally, take 50-60% of the #5 value

    Concours 1+ Show Cars: These vehicles have been treated to a very, very expensive concours quality, frame-off, no expensed spared, nut & bolt restoration and do not get driven. They can often command higher prices than CCMR's standard #1 value.
     
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  8. corncobcoupe
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    So based on this guide, your car is a #5

    Which is about 40-50% of a Number 4 value car.

    Complete but not running, not road worthy.

    I like old survivors but my opinion this one needs a bunch.

    But you can ask what ever $ you want for it.

    Would be fun trying to resurrect the old girl.

    Good luck.
     
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  9. Atwater Mike
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  10. I was just looking at that in the Cars for Sales section, nice buy!
     
  11. mlinton1941
    Joined: Oct 17, 2012
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    are you interested in the car ?
     
  12. kevinrevin
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    from East Texas

    The one I see in the photo, as just dragged from the bushes, $2k to $3k, depending on what it was, option-wise.

    But it really depends on what the person touching it, with their trailer ready to haul it away, offers.
     
  13. corncobcoupe
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    You asked what the value might be on several other posts and I gave you some recommendations.

    I was trying to guide you on having more information in your ad so you wouldn't get bombed with messages of need more details.

    By posting more details you filter out the time wasting dreamers vs the possible serious buyer.

    Good luck.
     
  14. mlinton1941
    Joined: Oct 17, 2012
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    much appreciated info. thank you !
     

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