Technical Hemi parts id. Marine, Industrial, Big Dodge truck?

I picked up some Hemi parts from a 354 Dodge truck and some Marine parts. Can anyone id these distributors, Fuel pump mount and what I think is a external oil pump?
1 distributor is a Holley with a tach drive and 2 ports with single points
2 other distributors are Chrysler splash proof dual points
Thank you in advance

 

This is just like the one out of my Dodge 354 truck engine.

 

The blue stuff is about the color of Chrysler Marine stuff, almost.

Everything on the front of the engine is gear driven, and that may be a hydraulic pump for controls.


Here's the fuel pump/oil fill tower:

 

The distributors are typical truck parts. As you can imagine they do have a very specific intermediate drive ***embly.

 

Yes, I ***ume that with the correct drive gear ***embly a car distributor will work with this 354 block.
Number stamped in front of valley cover is M354.

 

If you have a true marine 354, that had the full gear drive ***embly on the front, as seen in the picture that I posted (everything is driven off of the front), you might have a crankshaft problem.

True marine 354's are missing something on the crank snout. Since they don't have a car/truck like timing set, with sprockets and a chain, but instead have gears, the shoulder that the crank sprocket sits on is not there.

If you do have a marine engine carefully examine the crank snout. it should have a step in it where it gets a little bigger on the inside end, right ahead of the front main bearing. If it does not, and the snout is the same diameter all the way in, you will either have to have a crankshaft shop weld it up and turn it down, or swap cranks.

 

Yeah, we have a guy on the board that can get one of those out to you.

 

I bought this stuff for the adjustable rockers and Marine valve covers.
The block I believe is a 59 Big Dodge truck 354. The number stamped on the block is M354 and I believe this is not Marine but a 59 Dodge truck. Casting 1619829
The crank #1619647 does have the step up for a car timing set.
Heads are 1733463 which I think are Dodge truck, Marine or Industrial.

 

M354 is not a 'usual' truck ID code.
The casting number is typical p*** car and industrial and the crank is typical 331-354 style.
As you surmised, the heads are truck.

 

I read somewhere that M354 is a 1959 truck. Most info out there says the 354 truck motors stopped in 58 but some made it into 59 trucks too. Any thoughts?
M354 is not a typical Marine ID code either as some have suggested.

 

I am not aware of any difference in the block castings that would distinguish car/truck/marine.

The heads are truck or marine. The should have no water ports at the ends, but just an L-shaped protrusion near where water ports are on other Hemis.

If there is any trace of paint on the block and heads, that might tell some tales.

 

No water ports. One set is blue and one set is yellow.

 

As far as I know, blue would be marine, and yellow would be truck.

 

P***enger were silver, but what color were the industrial engines. My industrial looks silver, but there really isn't enough clean rust free areas to tell?

 

All of the p***enger car stuff that has come through my shop was silver.

I have seen Chrysler Industrial Hemi stuff in both red and silver, although mostly silver.

 

some found in '60 trucks.

 

The valve covers on the '56 331 I have out of a Dodge dump truck were silver with The "Power Giant" stickers that really look original.

 

Could the part in the upper left corner of the first photo be a governor?

 

That upper left piece in the first photo is painted blue which is the Marine color. My guess is this piece is part of a oil pump for hydraulic steering in a boat.
The 2 distributors on the left have remains of blue paint so I ***ume they are Marine.
The larger distributor on the right is a Holley and Saltflats has ID this a the same as his Dodge 354 truck engine. What are the 2 threaded ports for on this Holley truck distributor?
Thank you to all who have responded. We are constantly learning new things about these Hemi's thanks to you all and the HAMB!!!

 

Lube. Oil lines, in and out.

One thing that I just remembered, because marine stuff is rare for me, is that there is a machining difference in the front of a true marine/industrial block. It has two extra holes.

 

Basically the same as the 51-3 long tails.

 

The truck distributor 2 lines are for oil in and out? For what purpose as this distributor has a oil cup on the side for lubrication and where would these 2 lines hook up to?

 

Those distributors require the use of a intermediate shaft that has a riser/receiver that extends above the gear. Also of note, that intermediate shaft has the gear teeth hobbed in the opposite direction of automotive intermediate shafts. This is because the camshafts rotate in the opposite direction of automotive camshafts. To use those distributors in an automotive application, you would need to get the gear from an automotive distributor, and press it onto the special marine/ industrial intermediate shaft( if possible)

 

My block does have the 2 extra holes as shown above on the PAW page that says Marine/Industrial.
Does the truck blocks have these 2 extra holes?
Number stamped in front of valley cover is M354. Was hot tanked by previous owner and no signs of the blue Marine paint.
M354 - I have found no reference that this number is a Marine code. Anyone shed some light on this M354 stamping?

 

My 354 Dodge truck block does not have them.

 

The mystery continues. What is the stamping M354 in front of the valley cover

 

What is the casting number on the block?

 

1619829

 

That comes up as a 56-58 Chrysler 354.

 

Yes, but what I can't find is the M354 stamped in front of the valley cover.