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Technical Painting an aluminum radiator

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Hotrodjohn71, Aug 10, 2022.

  1. Hotrodjohn71
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    Regarding an aluminum radiator, is there a measurable loss of cooling from painting black?
     
  2. fastcar1953
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    Cheap black spray paint. Done it several times never noticed a difference in temp.
     
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  3. I doubt it. Radiator shops usually paint the br*** radiators black and have done so for years. I have an aluminum radiator in my model A with a pretty warmed over sbc in it and I painted the front only black. It has no problem cooling. I can't imagine it being any different if I also painted the rear black.
     
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  4. gimpyshotrods
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    For sure.

    I have observed it to be between 0.6 and 1.2 degrees.

    Paint away.
     
  5. Ned Ludd
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    Emissivity of radiant heat at the wavelengths ***ociated with coolant temperatures is far more sensitive to surface texture than colour. Since the function of a radiator is to radiate, you want a surface that will radiate as much mid-long-wave infrared as easily as possible. That is the mattest finish you can get, in whatever colour. Black is good because the near total absence of reflection makes the core disappear visually, and probably accounts as much as near-IR colour misconceptions for the traditional use of black paint.
     
  6. Kerrynzl
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    Only if you leave it in the sun :D [to absorb an external form of energy]
     
  7. lothiandon1940
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    ...@Ned Ludd, I knew you would put it into language that all of us simpletons would understand!!!..:rolleyes::):D:):D....;)
     
  8. lothiandon1940
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    ...Some folks choose to use Hi-temp bar-b-que grill Black just to be sure it will hold up to the heat. I would just be sure to use a good quality spray paint so as to not have to do it again later. Consensus has long been that it has no discernable affect on functionality, unless of course, you put 15 coats on!
     
  9. SAY WHAT?:eek::eek:

    Ben
     
  10. Jacksmith
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    In the old "How to Hot Rod a Small Block Chevy" Bible from the 70's, there was a section that claimed that black paint absorbs heat to a cooler temperature from the heat source... i.e. It will absorb the heat out of the engine block into the atmosphere.
    As mentioned above, flat paint, having a more irregular surface, will absorb heat a little better than gloss paint. I asked an old school radiator shop owner about that & he claimed "That's why we paint radiators flat black".
    It makes sense to me so, with the mind-set of "every little thing helps", I've always painted my radiators flat black, be it br***/copper or aluminum. (Though much heavier, I believe br***/copper cools better than aluminum)
    I.M.O., black looks better than aluminum... so if it helps cool a little better: Win/Win.
     
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  11. Rusty J
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    when painting the fins, don't spray head on, spray from an angle that coats the fins as lightly and quickly as possible, this way you get the coverage without the heavy paint buildup, your goal should be to camouflage the core, not insulate it with paint. I just used hi-temp satin black and never had a problem. (8 years of reliable cooling so far)
     
  12. HOTRODPRIMER
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    The local shop I have dealt with for more than 40 years will repaint old radiators black after hot vat dip or installing a new core in a old tank.

    Harvey, uses a mixture of flat black enamel & kerosene, HRP
     
  13. 51 mercules
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    I painted mine black.No problems,
     
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  14. Fitty Toomuch
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  16. Dos Cincos
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    I used some leftover chalkboard spray paint on mine. Basically it is flat. Just misted it on to cover the aluminum
     
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  17. HOTRODPRIMER
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    The only time ever had a problem was when O repainted my '65 Ford truck after being involved in a accident, to try to hid my poor body work I decided to paint flames on the truck and they turned out pretty good, but after everything dried and all the tape and paper was removed I needed to spray a clear coat, I used Amerflint clear and like a idiot I didn't cover the radiator since I wanted to clear coat the yellow grill and bumper.

    That truck ran hotter than a 4 balled tom cat! HRP
     
  18. twenty8
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    This is fairly obvious, but I will say it anyway. Make sure you don't spray a thick coat. Clogging the holes in the radiator with the paint will cause problems, no matter if it's black or ****** pink. Mist coat guys, mist coat.........;)
     
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  19. fastcar1953
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    Wouldn't it be nice if they were painted black already. Like steel wheels.
    Then someone would want it polished. :D
     
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  20. twenty8
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    If the radiator was polished, the air would slip through it easier and faster, and the cooling effect would be increased, no?
    o_O:rolleyes::D
     
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  21. Budget36
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    Naw, would be like having the coolant go through the system too fast and not cool, right? I mean the air coming through needs to be there longer to cool the radiator more. ;)

    I say paint it green. Martians don’t discriminate.
     
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  22. wicarnut
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    Last edited: Aug 12, 2022
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  23. BJR
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    Statistics prove that 89.6% of all numbers are made up at the time of their release.
     
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  24. Elcohaulic
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    Imageon being in the sun on a hot 90-degree day and putting on a winter coat.

    I never paint parts that release heat.
     

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