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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by jerryt, Sep 8, 2022.

  1. squirrel
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    When you buy the car from me, you can try it....I have no desire. It's just an ugly old Rambler.
     
  2. A Boner
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    How much you want for it?
     
  3. squirrel
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    I have plans to go on another trip...and I have at least 4k in it so far. I expect I'll lose a lot of money when the time comes to sell
     
  4. You don’t lose $$$ on things you enjoy
     
  5. dwollam
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    Gibbs works great. A little hard to find but worth it.

    Dave
     
  6. panhead_pete
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    Gibbs. Its epic.
     
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  8. A Boner
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    Well, if I buy it, I’m probably going to C-L-R the front fenders, doors and top, and then wax them. Then maybe sandblast the hood and possibly paint it with some semi-gloss white, house paint. That’s a big IF though!
     
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  10. squirrel
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    that's a lot of work!

    If you're serious, I might end up in the Twin Cities in November with the car, but then I'd have to walk home.
     
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  11. ken bogren
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    You could probably dig up a HAMB Relay to get you home again :)
     
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  12. 327Eric
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    I have a beautiful patina, or burnt off paint and rust on one of my trucks I bought to flip. I bought the clr, pads and linseed oil. Walked outside and looked at it, looked at the temperature, and wiped it down with pledge instead. The next owner can do as they will.
     
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  13. jerryt
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    This is a picture of what I have
    Thanks
    Jerry B8D0FF3F-05B5-4ACD-9E46-86F412BCB2F5.jpeg
     

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  14. squirrel
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    Wash the dirt off, and get it driving, and see how you like it. There's nothing that needs preserving....if you decide you just can't live with it looking like that, then the CLR wash would be worth a try, then if you see lots of paint, do some buffing. Don't put oil on it....just clean it...you'll have a great looking car.
     
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  16. TA DAD
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    This is easy patina, the elements have taken it's toll and the result looks good to me. Nothing added other than a good scrubbing with a Scotch Brite pad We hit a different cruise in every week and it gets nothing but rave IMG_0502 (3).jpg reviews especially from the ladies !
     
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  17. Squablow
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    Based on JerryT's picture, there's plenty of black paint left on there, that car could be scrubbed clean, buffed and waxed for sure and I'd bet it'd come out pretty good. Zero chance I'd put oil or clear on top of what's there.
     
  18. The easy way is just let it age. HRP

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  19. WC145
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  20. When spotting in repairs to match old paint, try using straight enamel and cut it with lacquer thinner.
     
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  21. nochop
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    Glossed, oiled patina just looks wonky in my opinion
     
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  22. I vote for washing with CLR, washing with soap, buffing, and waxing. I bet it will look killer!
     
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  23. There're basically two types of 'patina'; cars that are still presentable, with substantially intact or flawed paint, little or no major rust-through, and are showing their age but not outright neglect. These are genuine survivors, cars that were either decently stored due to changed life situations or driven enough that time to 'refresh' them wasn't carved out. Many were home builds that may lack the detailing that seems to be required these days but are perfect snapshots of the era. These won't be mistaken for a Rat Rod. @40FORDPU's green coupe is a perfect example that I'm personally familiar with.

    The other, 'heavily patinaed' ones are back-door Rat Rods IMO, and it's interesting to note that they're almost always 'classed' that way at shows. Yes, I understand the difference, but to the casual observer it can be hard to distinguish one from the other. I'm assuming the lure of saving money/time on bodywork is strong here, although the effort some builders make to achieve 'the look' can be as much work/expense as getting the car to a decent primer or suede job level. A driveway roller job would be an upgrade in many cases.

    I just don't get the attraction....
     
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  24. I think the term Rat Rod is used very loosely in car culture. Not all Hot Rods need nice paint or any paint at all. Paint doesn't make the car Rat, Street, or Traditional. What matters is how and what the vehicle is made from. It also matters how the owner presents the vehicle. A well aged paint job that has been cleaned and polished, even with some rust present, can look amazing on an old car. Personally, I love 90 year old weathered rust. It has beauty, history, and soul. You can park a fully restored car next to a well weathered car at a show, the well weathered car usually gets more attention because it provokes the imagination. If the car presents well, why cover up the well earned scars.
     
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  25. I like shinny, flat/low gloss,old weathered, neglected, rust, primer, flawless concourse or scrapyard beater
    Brushed, sprayed, rolled, pine top, sponge, sling shot, finger, cannon, poured, squirt gun, broom, fake, real or both.
    Just make it go and stop properly is all I ask
     
  26. sunbeam
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    You gota love rust on a fiberglass body.
     
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  27. Super/Stock Poncho
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    Checkout a product called Patina Sauce.
     
  28. jnaki
    Joined: Jan 1, 2015
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    Hello,


    Assuming the origin of this cool old Chevy truck was Bend, Oregon as the side door sign states, gives an idea about how the weather and proximity to the salt air/snow/moisture is valuable in getting a fast, good looking patina. Although having lived right on the sand in our early days, my wife and I have experienced a fast coating of salt air every afternoon for several years. Others have left cars/trucks outside in all sorts of weather/moisture for different results.

    So, if I/we were not on top of things, the salt air does its intended job of rusting everything in sight, fast, even shiny chrome. In the apartment and in the closed garage did slow the process down, but it just kept coming every single day… and sometimes all through the night. We had several mid-century modern chrome ball lamps and they had a nice coating of Cadillac Blue Coral Wax. But, over the years, it just needed upkeep like the cars outside or in the garage. If not, then the chrome made its changes.

    As Neil Young is associated with rock music, the title: “Rust Never Sleeps…” is a true life fact.

    No extra coating is necessary as the normal maintenance is done, anyway. A nice car wash and or cleaning in some circles does the job without having to spray a clear coating over the “patina.” “Let It Be” is another song that tells us all how car surfaces get thrashed if left outside and nothing is done to clean it up. No fake clear spray, but a gentle care of the surfaces and car/truck is necessary to carry on the patina look. If that is what you want.

    Jnaki

    We have never had a “patina” look car/truck as in our day, primer paint was patina. Otherwise, a nice sanding coat and the primer got the hot rod ready for the last step with a nice paint job. Patina? Another term overused to explain rust in various places. YRMV
     
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  29. BamaMav
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    Mine has been repainted in a base/ clear or maybe just enamel/ clear, and there are places the clear has failed. There are also a few rust bubbles, a few dents and scratches, but no holes. I wash it regularly, but never wax it, it shines decently. I don't know if it fits the definition of patina, and don't really care. It will get paint one of these days if I live long enough, I'm not in any hurry. I just enjoy driving it like it is right now. I want to get all the glass replaced and AC installed before I worry about new paint. It's a 20 footer, and that's ok. There's way more shiny paint on it than flaws. I don't care for the ones with more flaws than paint, it just looks like neglect to me. I'd rather see one in a coat of primer than looking like it just came out of a sand storm.
     
  30. Well of course you will, if you keep referring to it as "just an ugly old Rambler". :p

    Don't forget to promote this vehicle's "competition pedigree"!
    :rolleyes:
     
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