302 Ford six bolt bellhousings

Hi Guys and Gals

I have an early 80's 302 (E0AE D3C) that I've been trying to find a standard trans bellhousing for. I made a cardboard template of the rear mating flange and have been to a few swapmeets but each SBF six bolt I find doesn't match my template. Is there more than one configuration? I believe the engine came from a pickup. Thanks in advance! Regards, Dave.

 

What part of your template is not matching up???

 

302, 300 sixbanger, and 351W are the same. You are probably looking at 351M, 400, 460 bells, the top two bolts are higher up.

 

There is only one Ford small block six bolt bellhousing pattern;
Note: this is commonly called the Ford Small-block V8 pattern, though it is used in some "big block"-sized V8's as well as some V6's and I6's.
200 I6 1978-1983 only, partial (4 of 6 bolts) pattern.
250 I6
255 V8
289 V8 - (made after August 3, 1964 6 bolts holding bellhousing to block, before that date were 5 bolt)
302 Cleveland (Australia)
351 Cleveland V8 (not the 351 M-block engine)
351 Boss
351 Cobra Jet
351 Windsor V8
400 Cleveland M-block V8 aka 400FMX (certain 1973 casting numbers D1AE and D3AE, mated to the FMX transmission ONLY)
3.8/3.9/4.2L Canadian Es*** 90° V6 (RWD only)
240 I6
300 I6
4.6L Modular V8 (first two casting runs, numbers F1AE and F2VE)
5.0L V8 (not the New Coyote 5.0)
5.8L V8

 

Any sbf 6 bolt should bolt right on. Including AOD, C-4, C-6, t-5, fmx, top loader, etc.

 

There are two different stick bell housings,one for 157 tooth and one for 162 tooth flywheels,but the block bolt holes are all the same for 289/302/351. ROY.

 

I have a C4 early 70's, bolted to a 1990 351 windsor block in my Mustang... Ya I thought they (6bolt) where a common mate....

 

Many thanks for your responses gentlemen! It seems to be the upper holes not lining up but not the very top ones. I'm wondering if I might have had the template the wrong way around when I checked the bellhousings ( although I did mark "BACK" on the appropriate side). I've done stupider things! I will double-check the template and pay more attention when the next bellhousing that comes along. Thanks again to all who replied! Regards, Dave.

 

No, somthing is goofy there. Ford changed a lot of things, but bellhousings were not one of them. Any bellhousing that fit a 289 will fit a 302 and fit a 351 W. You are doing something wrong in your measurements or you are looking at 351 M stuff.

Don

 

this is what it looks like. It's not symmetrical, so if you had the template backwards, it would not line up

 

Could you have marked dowel holes as bolt holes?

But you don't really need a template to find one - just measure across the top two bolt holes - if it's about 5" it's a small block, if it's about 7", it's the 351M/400/429/460 bellhousing - side by side, it's obvious too.

 

One thing to remember, depending on what year trans u are using, the trans to bellhousing pattern changed( dont know what year tho) i used an 84 302 block, and a 64 trans...had to drill the holes to mount it.


-LUKEY-

 

It changed in 1965, from 5 bolt to 6 bolt. You would have problems using an 84 engine with a 64 trans.

 

Not the bellhousing to block pattern, the bellhousing to trans...IF using a manual trans




-LUKEY-

 

Ditto, Don's Hot Rods... I own a 74 F100, swapped in a 351W, in place of factory 302 / C4.... Bolted right in.....


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Thanks for the additional responses guys! Ernie: I did mark the locator pin holes (the middle ones in each of the lower three) as pin locations. I also compared my template to Squirrel's pic (Thanks Squirrel!) and it's a dead ringer. I'll bet dollars to doughnuts I had the ****ing thing backwards! And one of the housings I checked had a dual trans bolt pattern too. I guess I could blame it on the fact that I was almost a senior at the time (I am officially today!). Thanks to everyone again for your wise counsel! Regards, Dave.

 

As long as the 289 was a 6 bolt block, not an early 5 bolt prior to 1965

 

You also need to watch for the starter location, the bells for the 11" clutch flywheel have one of the holes moved out to relocate the starter- if you look at a Lakewood, it has two holes in that spot to accommodate both the small and large flywheels. Bells may have four or eight holes for the early and late trans patterns, and most later toploaders have both bolt patterns. I picked up one of those 3+1 OD toploaders from an '80's pickup, and by then they had deleted the extra holes for the early pattern- late "wide" pattern only

 

Ah yes - a 'Senior moment' - just a taste of things to come. Congrats on making it this far....

 

The memory is the second thing to go. I can't remember what the first thing is.

 

Thanks for the further responses with more info guys. Yes, I am now officially a grumpy (or dirty, whichever is applicable at any given time) old man. Will be watching for my first "Seniors Only" parking spot plus every Senior's buying discount I can find. Up here in B.C., we also get to ride the mainland ferry for free and get a 25% reduction on our basic car insurance premium. Regards, Dave

 

Correction,... My previous thread should read '72 F100..... More fat finger typing....

4TTRUK