bags on a fenderless 34?

P. S. I agree to loose the visible IFS...but have fun crusin' till you get a setup YOU want! Funny how chicks will still want a ride no matter how much the fellas criticize ya!

 

I don't care for the A-arms, I think it looks like I could take the frame from my 50 plymouth and throw a hotrod body on it with a hood and grille, it just doesn't seem to add up.

erock, from the pics it looks like you already set that truck free, so why add the bags and put in back in *******?
The before pics look like air bags, the after pics looks traditional.

On a side note, nice lookin ride!!!

 

This is ugly, yours ain't. The Champ 500s weren't makin' it, though...

 

My opinion... do whatever the hell you want that makes you happy...

However, my lame *** comment is directed towards all those people that posted/thought **** like this Bags do not belong on Hot rods... Umm some of you idiots need to actually "define" hotrod before you make generalizations like that.

Hell, even if you DO define "hotrod", a few members of this board may disagree..such as Ryan, Dodgerodder and the HAMB'er with the awesome green and white model 'A' (I apolagize for forgotting your name)...

 

IMHO very few cars with IFS and no fenders look "right" but it's your car and you have to build it the way you want. Most that do look better look to street roddy for my taste. Do stop and give things some serious thought and time before you dive in.

That all being said, if you have to have bags, go with a traditional looking axle and hide the bags like rdaugird showed. Here's an example of bags that came out very nice.

 

Thanks for showing some great looking rides! I love the these trucks look on the ground and I want them og suspension.

flathead youngin is given away a truck axle, wishbone and spring...anyone driven from spokane thru or near az?

 

hey, this is not about YOU. but thanks though for trying to turn it into a thread about you. erock805 lives in arizona, his roads are fine. he never said he was doing it because of potholes. AND HE DID ASK FOR OPINIONS! well, he got 'em. i'm sure he's not offended by other people saying they think it's a bad idea. if he is, he should have never asked.
and the worst ****ing thing you can do for someone like this is say "build it your way", or "it's your car, do what you want". HE ASKED FOR OTHER PEOPLE'S OPINIONS!!! he knows it's his car, he wants to know how WE feel about it.
if you can't HELP erock805 here by contributing, stay the **** away from this post! he doesn't need you to come to his rescue, cowboy!
jeeez!

 

for the official count, i say: nay.

bad idea.
bags would look odd.
can't we all pitch in brainpower and help you figure out another way?...

 

i'm 21 yrs old, and have alot to learn too, thats why im here. I like Dodgerodders pictures, as well as the sedan gas monkey garage did. I've read a few things on here about how he is not a trustworthy or honest guy and not liked very much. That being said, i do not promote him or support him...never even seen or talked to the guy actually. But aside from dodgerodder, his sedan is the only one i've seen w/ a suicide front axle that has bags and looks decent. i'm fully convinced to do this on my 34 plymouth.

 

First off, I didn't try to turn this thread into a thread about me or what I want....*****. Second, I used where I live as an example because there are different needs for someone's suspension set up and why they would choose air bags...whether it was bad roads or what not. I used where I live as a "pro" versus a "con" because here it makes sense. It would have nothing to do with wanting a lowrider or minitruck style, it would make sense and be practical. That's great he's got great roads, some of us don't, so as I said in my first post in this thread, that's why I was playing devils advocate on why this set up is a good thing.

And as far as your other loudmouthed, ***hole comment, I wasn't coming to his rescue like some cowboy....but I get tired of people on here hammering the **** out of someone for asking a reasonable question.

 

I like the dodgerodder and GMG hidden setup, totally killer...it'll definately get some heads scratching when seen in person...IFS and airbags on open frontend vehicles are just gross, and even with fenders it can be hard to pull it off properly...I would say if you want to stick with the MII IFS, then find some fenders and try your best to make it look as nice as possible, and not thrown together...

 

there you go again. this time, your post was ALL about you.
try using the pm feature if you want to call me names, and let's stick to helping erock805 here, shall we?...

 

iwould put fenders on it if your going to bag it and keep the ifs . if you want a 34 frame i will sell you one if you want

 

I think that linked air setup and Dodgerodders look very cool, Its a very traditional look with the obvious benefit of bags. Id like to see one up close. Like other said the IFS A arm stuff just looks bad no matter what, fenders can only attmept to hide an ugly suspension. If I built another rod like the one I have now I would be really tempted to check into that air setup. I have seen the Gasmonkey car in person and the Traditional Air one seems to look much better and more correct.

You have to understand though, on the HAMB "Traditional" is a tricky word. Modern ideas and technologys are usually frounded upon even when the look might be similar to "traditional". Hypocritical as it may seem, I would consider the bags setup but wouldnt do something like hidden disk brakes like SO-Cal offers.

Just my 2 cents.

Patj

 

you could z the frame alittle run 16" wheels with taller tires, z'd with the wheels and some 700 16's in the back it would appear to look lower then the wheel tire combo you have now. You might be alittle lower but not "pushing gravel". Personally I think it looks 4byish because u see so much of the bed above the tire.

 

I was going to suggest that if you want to go with bags to set it up the way Dodgerodder did before I even saw his, since that's the way I'm setting up my 36 truck though probably without the air. His looks great. You have a nice truck there, but I think it would look better if you moved the front wheels (axle) ahead more, then it would look a little less nose heavy. Then if you really want to do some work, you could take the bed apart, switch sides so that the wheel arch is farther forward, then move the rear axle forward to center the wheels in the arch. I just think the whole truck would look so much better. I'm not raggin on your truck though, I like it, but I think it could be improved a little, though guite a bit of work.
I would DEFINATELY put the fenders back on or better yet toss that IFS, I hate that stuff on fenderless cars. JMHO

 

just put bags in the rear thats what i got on my fenderless truck

make a search for jakdupkustoms i think thats his name but he buildt a sectioned 34 with bags in the rear the whole truck is a pretty cool setup

 

Awesome stuff...I know it looks off, very late 80S to 90s. I that the wheels seem in a wierd position as it sits. I do have the OG frame, I will learn to box it and goto a dropped axle. I want a new bed all together...it seems too high. Your feedback is spot on. thanks

 

I really do appreciate everyones input on this stuff. It has allowed focus to my little 34. Got a truck load of work to do on it. The more I think about it the more I think putting the original frame back together would be the easiest way...I can go back to the straight axle, solve the wheel location issues and still drive what i got till the frame is done.

I still like how low some of those cars sit. Where should I get the front suspension components?

 

I'm really glad you took my criticism the way it was intended. I almost didn't post that since some guys say they want opinions, then get offended if you criticize anything. I really do like your truck, but it could be better, and I know it will be with your at***ude. As far as getting it low, you could do a traditional front axle set up and Z the frame to get the body lower.
btw, I have 5 hot rods and customs, and they could all stand some improving, but they're still fun.

 

hi im gona offer some help it comes from my mimi truckn days just goes to show that u can learn a lot from a dummie . i like to build cars on the edge my self i want all the bells&whistles too. but it hasta look right you dont wear a sweater and shorts and this is a traditional site so it should atleast look the part. its ugly but u get the point this is what im doing on my 40.

 

pretty cool...Am I seeing this right? so when you air the axle moves up?

 

AMEN !!!!!!

 

I can't figure it out either.

 

sorry i drew that quick here is a better one. this is a set up i used on a nissan very easy to do needs to be welded damn good and use cold roled steel.

 

it's just off in my opinion. but do what YOU think looks good. not joe blow three houses down.

 

so eliterate redneck...this is a torsion bag setup? wait...that sounds painful. let me try again.

uses bags instead of torsion bars on long bars connected to the front axle. Man that would have to be some STOUT tube. But if it worked on your old truck then cool.

 

come to think of it you could use some torsion bars off of a 3/4 or 1 ton chevy 4x4 and be guaranteed strength and you'd never flex those things on a light 30's pickup. Plus they have the adjuster that could be used as the "cam" in the drawing. Then the bags would be allowed to work without...well...torsion in the bar.

sorry, ranting again

 

not tube solid steel cold rolled.....