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Technical brighter headlights

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Deuce Man, Nov 13, 2022.

  1. Deuce Man
    Joined: Jul 31, 2015
    Posts: 277

    Deuce Man

    My 29 roadster has 34 commercial headlights they look great are 12 volt with incandescent bulbs problem is that they leave a lot to be desired during night time driving What is the latest greatest modern fix for my lights Thanks Rich
     
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  2. Tow Truck Tom
    Joined: Jul 3, 2018
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    I hear a lot of praise for Cibie's lamps
    Definitely where I will go, when the time comes
     
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  3. BJR
    Joined: Mar 11, 2005
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    BJR
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    Regular halogen sealed beam light bulbs in my Buick, work great. Don't know if they will fit in your lights though.
     
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  4. Unfortunately, Cibie round headlights have been discontinued. Being a low-volume item, Cibie let the tooling wear out and quality dropped below minimum standards. Daniel Stern is now selling a Japanese light (Kioto) of better quality/performance, but these don't quite have the 'look' of the older Cibie design so tracking down a good used or NOS Cibie set may be the only choice...

    http://www.danielsternlighting.com/products/products.html

    A real bummer as those were my go-to choice for outstanding lighting.
     
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  5. Tow Truck Tom
    Joined: Jul 3, 2018
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    Tow Truck Tom
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    AHRRGH I keep sitting while the train rolls down the track
     
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  6. 1971BB427
    Joined: Mar 6, 2010
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    1971BB427
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    from Oregon

    My fix in both of my 30's cars was to modify the existing reflectors inside the headlights to accept a halogen socket. I simply went to the local wrecking yard and found a car crunched up front, so headlights were damaged. The yard gave me the broken headlights and sockets for a few bucks, and I cut the wiring long enough to splice later.
    I cut the sockets out of the reflectors on the halogens, and then cut the sockets out of my reflectors using a holesaw to make a small round hole. Using JB Weld and pop rivets I installed the sockets into my reflectors, and then wired them into my system.
    It was cheap, easy, and the light level is great! I also cut holes for turnsignal lamp sockets, to add those to my reflectors.

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  7. Hotrodmyk
    Joined: Jan 7, 2011
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    Got re-pop '34 commercials on my pickup. They use a standard 9007 bulb that do a pretty good job. Might look into these with all the 9007 variant bulbs, might find one that works for you.
     
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  8. '29 Gizmo
    Joined: Nov 6, 2022
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    '29 Gizmo
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    from UK

    H4 reflectors and HID bulbs. Ridiculously bright.
     
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  9. indyjps
    Joined: Feb 21, 2007
    Posts: 5,397

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    Perfect Hot Rod solution. Can you tell more on wiring? Relay ?

    Here's an older thread on it
    https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum...ogen-t3-lenses-on-hella-h1-h4-lights.1209713/

     
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  10. 2935ford
    Joined: Jan 6, 2006
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    I solved that problem by not driving at night! :(
     
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  11. jeffkau
    Joined: Mar 3, 2012
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    I did the same as 1971BB427. Works great and still keeps the old style light look.
     
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  12. hepme
    Joined: Feb 1, 2021
    Posts: 640

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    I had a similar problem with a coupe i used to own, went to a swap meet and there was a guy selling some Jag headlights, perfect size. I bought them and man, had to keep 'em on low all the time, on bright you'd need a welding helmet. So, you might consider some European somethings, they don't follow the U.S. rules for lights.
     
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  13. Have you tried the "Brite" bulbs (their spelling) from Ron Francis Wireworks? I ***ume your reflectors are in good condition and silvered (NOT CHROME).

    Charlie Stephens
     
  14. 19Eddy30
    Joined: Mar 27, 2011
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    from VA

    The Key to work correctly is Silvered (brightness) & bulb in correct location to lens flutes .
     
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  15. Kerrynzl
    Joined: Jun 20, 2010
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    These [attached]
    https://www.amazon.com/HELLA-H4-130-90W-Wattage/dp/B000VUB4CW

    But you must use relays as they draw 22A on high-beam, and 15A on low-beam.
    And don't adjust the lights too high.

    I've used these for years in my old tow vehicles [the damn near melt the ice off the road in winter]

    I've also had a few vehicles that failed roadworthy inspections because of poor headlights [reflectors/lenses] so I install a set of these just for the inspection and always get a p***.
     
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  16. deathrowdave
    Joined: May 27, 2014
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    deathrowdave
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    from NKy

    My 32 OEM reflectors are a slight gold tint . I would not swap them for any new ones . Think you have dim lights , ride the Knuckle with a mag .
     
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  17. Mr48chev
    Joined: Dec 28, 2007
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    I used to run 55/100 H-4 bulbs in the lights in my 40 and on high beam they were good for any speed I wanted to run.
    Even with the 55 watt low beams the lights didn't put out great light after the reflectors got dull and those were 7 inch Cibie lights.

    With any Halogens I'd suggest running relays to protect the switches.. I had a lot of dimmer switch burn out problems in my 71 running H-4 lights until I installed relays..
     
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  18. NoelC
    Joined: Mar 21, 2018
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    Well Rich, we all have our troubles.

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    Only thing sadder them then a car with dim headlights is no head lights. I tend to think improvement first, then modern advancement. But I do like old lens and trim that came with a factory car.
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    While not a fan of the seal beam conversion, hidden under or exposed is a cheap improvement.

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    Bulbs and lighting have come a long way towards improving nighttime driving. Time has shown there are more options now than ever before.

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    A brighter bulb, a modern reflective surface. Improvement and modernization.

    My buddy got a E bay deal on these and asked if I could fit them for him. It was a tight fit but he's got bright reflective, built-in turn signal and they are bright.

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    Red neck as it sounds, a couple of these bad boys epoxied into place would yield some bright to the road. Cheap as it gets and an improvement.
     
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  19. manyolcars
    Joined: Mar 30, 2001
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    manyolcars

    On my avatar, I took a carbide burr to the
    socket on the head light bar, then sanded the ball on the bottom of the light and coated everything with never seize. They are Bright now!
     
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  20. gene-koning
    Joined: Oct 28, 2016
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    Adding light relays will help a bunch.
    If you need more, then add the brighter halogen lights (you will probably need the relays for them).
     
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  21. 6sally6
    Joined: Feb 16, 2014
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    X-2......unbelieveably brighter.
    6sally6
     
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  22. I am reading lots of answers here. I may be mistaken but I think that 34 comercial lights are bigger then 7" diameter. Am I mistaken?

    If I am not mistaken you are kind of stuck with 'em. Maybe make sure the reflectors are in good shape and find some halogen bulbs to go in them.
     
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  23. mgtstumpy
    Joined: Jul 20, 2006
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    OEM headlamps in my35 Chevy, resilvered lenses and QH bulbs manufactured with correct focus
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  24. bobss396
    Joined: Aug 27, 2008
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    I'm using them, from Rock Auto. Definitely brighter over the OG bulbs,
     
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  25. stubbsrodandcustom
    Joined: Dec 28, 2010
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    stubbsrodandcustom
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    from Spring tx

    Here are some shots of my stock Model A two lite, with stock internals and LED bulbs, this is 6v too...

    These headlights beat the stock stuff 10 fold... My 56 has the H4 bulbs in the Autopal housings and they are marginal in their output, my moms 56 has Sealed beam Sylvania xtra vision and that truck will light the way better than mine.

    Holley has some new Retrobright sealed LED lights that dont look dumb, they are expensive but Ive heard some guys say they are really nice.

    All depends on what your looking for man, these LED bulbs I got from Berts worked great cause I wanted stock looking two lite housings and lenses. Just have to remember to focus the beams and output is great.

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  26. @porkn****** , the 34 Ford lights are larger. Need to work with the existing reflector, or aftermarket replacement of same size, to fit the bucket.
     
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  28. stubbsrodandcustom
    Joined: Dec 28, 2010
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    stubbsrodandcustom
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    from Spring tx

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  29. Jalopy Joker
    Joined: Sep 3, 2006
    Posts: 34,114

    Jalopy Joker
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    hate super bright headlights on other cars , especially new cars. blinding when coming at you, blinding from rear when light hits rear view mirror
     
  30. jaw22w
    Joined: Mar 2, 2013
    Posts: 1,722

    jaw22w
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    from Indiana

    I'd like to have a set of headlights with three modes. Low beam, high beam, and nuclear that would burn the retinas right out of the guy's eyes driving those new big pickups that have those lights that are blue and about 4 feet off the ground. Takes me about a mile down the road before I can see again.
     

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