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Technical ID of rear end

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Focal7, Dec 6, 2022.

  1. Focal7
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    Now it's time to ID the rear end in the old 34. Front is a 40 Ford. Is this rear end unit also a 1940??? 20221206_103639.jpg 20221206_103631.jpg 20221206_103621.jpg 20221206_103614.jpg
     
  2. 51504bat
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    Has hydraulic brakes and its 5 on 5 1/2 so 1940 or later unless things were changed around over the years. I'm sure there are other ID info that more knowledgeable members will post.
     
  3. Moriarity
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    I think the real clues are in the wishbone mounts and spring hangers which are not shown well in the pictures
     
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  4. alchemy
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    Brake drums/hubs are 42-48, the backing plates are hard to see but look like I can see a notch so also 42-48. The wishbones are short so that looks like 42-48 as well. The bearings that may be needed are the same from 39-48, so doesn't really matter what year the housing is, unless you need to replace some big parts. Note, the brakes shoes and bushings are different from your front 1940 brakes.
     
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  5. Focal7
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    Thanks for the help so far. I have these other outside pics. I dont know if they will help. Please remember. This had an Olds engine mounted in it and I think the motor was moved back approx. 6" from its stock location so the torque tube and wishbones have been shortened up but I'm obviously changing out wheel cylinders & brake parts and inspecting the differential. Are these pictures any more helpful??? I'll post in a second.
     
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  7. alchemy
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    Yep, all 42-48, with a probably shortened torquetube and driveshaft.
     
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  8. Focal7
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    Thank you much! Got a get the parts comin.
     
  9. Moriarity
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    keep in mind that you need a special puller to remove the rear drums, also the wheel studs are "swedged" thru the hubs and drums and they are not easily separated . also once the drums are off, inspect the part of the axle housing that the wheel bearings ride on, they are sometimes worn or pitted.
     
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  10. rusty valley
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    I don't think reproduction drums of that type are being made. You will need the earlier style with the drum mounting from the outside if your drums are bad
     
  11. Focal7
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    As I’m getting ready to start on the rear end what kind of puller does it take to remove the drums. Can someone post a picture??? I pretty much know what to look for the outer end but what about the differential itself??? Since this was used as a drag car is there any chance they welded something in the diff. ??? Was that a common practice in this era or not??? Thank you!
     
  12. Budget36
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    If you look past the spindle nut, see the tapered part that then has a “lip” before it gets to the drum? There’s a tool that clamps over that lip, then is used to pull the drum off.
    That said, on the few I’ve done, I used a 3 legged puller that I could bolt to the studs. It worked without issues. But mine may have just been easier to get off than others.
    I tightened my puller a bit, smacked the end with a 2lb sledge and “pop” off they came.
     
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  13. alchemy
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    Search KR Wilson banjo drum puller. They are expensive but well worth it if you plan on playing with old Fords for a while. Otherwise make friends with a local who has one.
     
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