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Technical Cragar Ignition 427 FE Suggestions/Help

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Jeff Norwell, Dec 5, 2022.

  1. Jeff Norwell
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    A very good friend of mine is building his 427 Hi-Riser and has been collecting for a very long time.
    Nearly complete, he has hit a snag and is looking for info.
    The original cap n rotor are long gone... he has a cap and rotor but the cap is far too tall and the rotor is about 1/2 inch too short.(within the cap)((Also getting very close to the front carb and installation of the wires in that area is becoming impossible.)) I assume a shorter cap and rotor would be ideal.
    He has been searching parts houses.. but unfortunately.... a good parts person is becoming so very scarce.
    Obviously Cragar has been long gone for years..... but I was wondering if anyone has info or possibly another cap and rotor that may fit?
    The Diameter of the base(cap) is 3.375.
    Any suggestions would be extremely helpful.

    Thanks guys.



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  2. joel
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    Is the distributor for a Hi rise different than a standard FE? An 8 lobe dual point is not particularly significant in todays market with all the electronic models available. I think Pertronix makes a pretty stock looking dist. with vacuum advance for an FE. If you can't find a cap and rotor this might be an option.
     
  3. Deuces
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    Looks like the carb(s) are mounted back asswards... if so, he needs to remove the secondary metering block for distributor cap clearance and use a metering plate instead..
     
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  4. Moriarity
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  5. Moriarity
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    My cap is 2 3/4 tall ED48BF90-B709-4285-8B28-916627A3E055.jpeg
     
  6. My suggestion is to start looking at older stuff such as Y block parts for a cap and sometimes a 6 cylinder rotor. I found out that seldom did they make their own parts without copying something readily available. I remember seeing rotors with a flat to drive them but can't remember on what. Did I mention I'm old and have little memory? :) Most besides GM used the 2 straps to hold the cap on. Because the little Dodge hemi had dual points, that might be a place to start looking.
     
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  7. @Jeff Norwell if Marks uses a common Chrysler cap I have ALOT of them if you need a quick measurements. The caps and rotors are the same big or small block for a couple of decades!!
     
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  8. The 1954 Dodge 241 rotor is the same shape. I don't have any dimensions for it.
     
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  9. TA DAD
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    The Chrysler stuff also fits Accel distributors. Plus I don't know about the stuff today but years ago the Accel rotors would break without warning.
     
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    Last edited: Dec 5, 2022
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  11. Moriarity
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    The cap and rotor are Mopar parts as I stated above in post #4, for anyone that cares the ignition points for these are standard ignition FD8081 they are from Ford 6 cyls from 48-64
     
  12. 327Eric
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    Moriarty saves the day again
     
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  13. Jeff Norwell
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    Thanks Guys, Thanks All!
     
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  14. tommyd
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    And those carbs are sitting backwards for sure.
     
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  15. egads
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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Holley's on Ford's FE ( 2 fours and 3 two's ) are usually mounted " backwards "
     
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  16. Fordors
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    If you could turn them around and still have the front one clear the distributor you will be fabricating new linkage. Ford didn’t mount them that way just to be different.
     
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  17. cjshaker
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    Nah, GM and Chrysler always mounted their carbs backwards.:D
    Ford did it to clear the distributor. If you have dual metering block carbs, you have a couple options. Mount them sideways (requires all new linkage), get a really tall intake and use a crab cap, or use a offset distributor.
     
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  18. MeanGene427
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    No, they are oriented correctly for that application. The stock progressive linkage also works very well
     
  19. Deuces
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    <<<<<< FE fan....:D:D:rolleyes:
     
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  20. tommyd
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    That's right. I'm a Ford guy and I got that wrong. I'm hanging my head in shame.
     
  21. joel
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    Thanks @Moriarity for chiming in; I have trouble finding consumables for my YC Mallorys . I should have waited to see how desperate the OP was in his search.
     
  22. doug schriener
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    Hi-That cap and rotor looks an awful lot like the Mopar dual-point that came on the 340's in the Swingers and Dusters-just wonderin'
     

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