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Hot Rods 12 Bolt Spartan Locker Issue

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by mtnxtreme, Dec 14, 2022.

  1. mtnxtreme
    Joined: Apr 7, 2013
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    Bought a Spartan Locker for my 65 Chevy Apache, after I install the side couplers where the thrust washers were , the axles and c clips,the center pin does not fit between the axles. Spartan is telling me the 65 had an early narrow carrier and I cant use the locker but have to buy a whole new wide style carrier with limited slip, I'm pissed, $350 down the drain, has anyone ever heard of this and maybe know some option's, I really don't want to put my spiders back in and have to reset my whole ring and pinion. Maybe c clip eliminators and the Spartan ?
     
  2. sdluck
    Joined: Sep 19, 2006
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    trucks were different than cars,but 1965 and 1966 cars were narrow 12 bolts, tri mocking it up with out the spider gear shaft and see if it fits.Years ago there was a spider shaft that was narrow to fit.
     
  3. mtnxtreme
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    It goes together, splines work etc. and without the spiders, when I install the C clips the shaft don't fit.
     
  4. sdluck
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    Can you trim the axles ,They are to long.I think there used to be a spider shaft that was made that let the axles go in,try making one out of a wooden dowel to see if it fits.
     
  5. gimpyshotrods
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    Did you push the axle shafts outward?

    The c-clips should it in the pockets in the spider gears.

    If they are in the pockets. already, and the pin will not fit, get a set of calipers, and measure the spacing from the "****ons" that stick out past the c-clips. Compare that to the pin diameter.

    Take the spider gears out, bring them to a machine shop, and have the depth of the pockets increased by half each of the difference.

    If the c-clips don't slip into the pockets because the pockets are too small in diameter, get them enlarged.

    Alternately, and of the difference is slight, you can have flats milled in the pin.

    So long as you don't remove any shims in the process, this has nothing whatsoever to do with the ring and pinion alignment and backlash.
     
  6. mtnxtreme
    Joined: Apr 7, 2013
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    Yes axles are all the way out, not using spiders, using a Spartan locker, but this gives me an idea, I might be able to machine the locker to fit.
     

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