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History WORLD’S….FASTEST….STREET….ROADSTER

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Austinrod, Jan 5, 2023.

  1. HEMI32
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    Current Guidelines for the Street Roadster Classes.jpg
    The SCTA Bonneville "STreet Roadster" class was established in 1970 ... with just seven different engine displacement classes (A, B, C, D, E, F, & X) ... later adding other engine classes (AA, G, H, X, XF, XO, XXF, XXO, V4, & V4F) and differentiating between normally aspirated & blown (supercharged or turbocharged) engines.

    That first year, Dick @Scritchfield in his #32 (ex-Bob McGee) Deuce Roadster:

    Dick Scritchfield #32 C - Street Roadster - Boneville 1970.jpg

    ... established the C/STR record with a two-way average of 165.327 mph ... thus earning the title of the first "World's Fastest Street Roadster" ... NOTE: Dick bumped the C/STR record up to 167.212 mph in 1971.

    My research indicates that it wasn't until 1976 that the title of the "World's Fastest Street Roadster" was bestowed upon a different roadster … when Denton Golden (driving the Golden family roadster) set the A/STR record at 191.281 mph ... NOTE: In 1978, Denton set the AA/STR record at 206.315 mph.

    In 1985, the #96 Scotty's Muffler Service '34 Roadster became the "World's Fastest Street Roadster" when it bumped the Golden family's AA/STR record up to 213.992 mph.

    The very next year (1986), the #333 VARNI - WALSH - WALSH - CUSACK Deuce Roadster:

    Varni~Walsh~Walsh~Cusack #333 AA-SR. (1986).JPG

    ... became the "World's Fastest Street Roadster" when my friend, Tommy Walsh piloted this 510ci supercharged Chevy powered Roadster to a new AA/STR record of 225.377 mph ... NOTE: In 1991, Tommy set the AA/B{blown}STR record at 232.621 mph ... and John Walsh set the C/{blown}STR at 213.853 mph (with my father's urn strapped behind the roll cage).

    As we know, 1991 was also the year that Joe Law drove the #355 VASICEK - DAUGHERTY - SLATE - LAW (370ci twin-turbocharged Chevy powered) '29 Roadster to a new C/B{blown}STR record of 244.230 mph ... which dethroned the #333 Deuce Roadster of its "World's Fastest Street Roadster" title.
     
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  2. Stan Back
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    I'm confused. You state that the C/STR (unblown) record was set in 1991 at 213.853.

    We set the C/STR (unblown) record in 2003 at 199.923. At least that's what the certificate on the wall says. We set it some more times ending up for us at 210.288 in 2006.
     
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  3. Austinrod
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    Some Chet Thomas sayings
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  4. Stan Back
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    So . . . ?
    See post #92.
     
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  5. DaveyJonez
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    The power of The Hamb- always people around that actually have practical knowledge of such topics. Setting a record is a herculean accomplishment, others claiming records without any idea ain't cool in my eyes.
     
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  6. spiritof67
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    By the way, I have an American flag I'll send you so you can remove that other one on the wall that is not. Let me know!
     
  7. Don't one of those dumbasses. He posted those shots were from the sellers garage anyway.
     
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  8. jimmy six
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    Not sure about that. This one has held 4 speed records Bonneville and 2 at El Mirage over the years. Definitely not at the speed of Joes roadster but records none the less. First one was in 1975 and the last one in the mid 80’s. 5B2E7DBE-885E-4162-880D-13FD1992A998.jpeg
     
  9. Austinrod
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    That’s from a article online from the past owner not my garage
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  10. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    But jimmy, Didn't you say in another thread that you had to make major rust repairs to the body/chassis after runnig on the salt? That, plus retrofitting street stuff and removing some race oriented parts qualifies as "It's tough making a car that was raced into a street vehicle" to me. This is not to diminish your accomplishments both on the race course and on the street but to point out its not as easy as just going down to the DMV and picking up some plates.
     
  11. Austinrod
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    They had too do a Assembled Vehicle or kit car
    Title for this 29 even tho it used to be registered
    Street rod in 1980-87
     
  12. Bad Bob
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    Okay....There's "ABLE" to drive on the street, and there's "COMFORTABLE" to be a daily driver! I know there's many race cars that are driven on the street. But how many would you take on a trip? What I was getting at was, There's some changes that need to be made to make it NOT swallow gas, ride smoother, seeing out of(for some)quiet it down, functioning lights....you know what I meant. Kugal and Steve Davies, built Roadsters that they drove to Bonneville, raced, then drove home.
     
  13. Austinrod
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    This 29 when it was a hot rod not a bonneville racer
    Was driven from West Virginia to bonneville and back in 1987
    It does have a 40 gallon tank maybe solves the gas issue lol
     
  14. Sounds to me like the title got used on another Model A sometime in the past. No reason otherwise to switch over from a clear title to assembled
     
  15. Bad Bob
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    Now...that's a drive!!! I really want to drive my Coupe to Bonneville, after I make a few more changes. Soon.....
     
  16. Nacifan
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    1976 B ville note temp tag.jpg
    I would bet more than a few B'Ville Street Roadsters had titles and were at 1 time Street Rods (term at the time).
    Note period correct Temp-Tag mount on our family D/STR
     
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  17. Austinrod
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    Another saying from Chet
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  18. Austinrod
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    COOL PHOTO
     
  19. Stan Back
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    . . . and he still hasn't fessed up to the phony C/STR record.
     
  20. Stan Back
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    GNRS 2019.jpg
    We kept this one licensed for its 15+-year El Mirage and Bonneville runs. Seven El Mirage and Bonneville records, 2-Club and a few car shows. The license flopped down for the parachute to blossom. The registration cost $7 when I bought it in 1962 and went up to $130+ when I quit buying it. It did come in handy when we once in a while flat-towed it.
     
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  21. HEMI32
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    @Stan Back -

    My apologies ... "{unblown}" was a typo on my part ... the #333 roadster has always run a supercharged GM engine ... be it in the AA, A, B, or C engine class.

    Note that 1991 was the "transition year" ... when the SCTA started to differentiate between normally aspirated & forced induction ("Blown") engine classes.

    Note also that John Walsh set the C/{blown}STR* record at 213.853 mph early in the week (getting him into the 2-Club) ... and then later in the week, Joe Law bumped the C/B{blown}STR record up to 244.230 mph.

    * This "C/STR" classification is from the 1990 SCTA rule book ... when supercharged engines were bumped up TWO classes ... i.e., the #333 C/STR ran a supercharged 260ci (E class) engine.
    I've updated my previous post accordingly.​

    - @HEMI32
     
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  22. HEMI32
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    As stated above, 1991 was the year SCTA started differentiating between normally aspirated & forced induction ("Blown") engine classes ... John Walsh's 213.853 mph SCTA certified record read "C/STR" ... while brother, Tom Walsh's 232.621 mph SCTA certified record read "AA/BST":

    #333 Records (at 2014 GNRS).JPG
     
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  23. Austinrod
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    Here’s the board that came wih Joe Law 29
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  24. Austinrod
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    The only thing I’m changing on the 29 is the tires
    There dated and I hate radials so going with this
    Combo I just ordered !
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  25. Austinrod
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    Here’s more too the story
    Let’s rewind a bit because there is more to this story. Joe Law acquired this red roadster back in 1980 with the mindset to make a cool little street car out of it. He drove it some 22,000 miles around the country, including a trip to Bonneville, where he also decided to marry his girlfriend during SCTA Speed Week, right on the starting line!
     
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  26. Bad Bob
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    Amazing....
     
  27. stanlow69
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    So, why did he sell it then with that much history and memories?
     
  28. Austinrod
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    I guess too support his lakester/streamliner
    He took the 371 BBC out of the 1929 and put it in the streamliner
    Kept the same number too
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  29. Stan Back
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    In SCTA, you "own" the number and can use it on any other vehicle as long as you keep it active.
     
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