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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Roothawg, Jan 31, 2023.

  1. Roothawg
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    I have a buddy building an OT Chevy pickup that he drove when we were in high school.

    He has a Saginaw out of a big block powered car from the mid to late 60’s. He called last night asking if I had any kind of illustrated parts breakdown or exploded view of the transmission.

    Anyone have anything like this?

    I have a lot of Motors Manuals, but nothing that really breaks it down like he wants.
     
  2. squirrel
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  3. Johnny Gee
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    That trans would be a 2:54 first in the last year of the 60’s Chevelle and only time a Sag made it behind a BB from the factory.
     
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  4. DDDenny
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    No, but I've seen a number of them that had exploded.
     
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  5. Johnny Gee
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    9D577F5C-1BCF-4F45-B1DD-409C983D6877.jpeg 79F730D9-0238-45A4-AD94-8D75CBE056F6.jpeg 19714CE4-B6D7-4143-B3A9-5011929EDCD1.jpeg Ok went to the garage and pulled my book that I bought in high school and got **** from the others with thing’s like “what?, don’t know how to work on cars”.
     
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  6. A view of an exploded 4 speed saginaw transmission: :rolleyes: :D

    exploded.PNG
     
  7. Roothawg
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    Thanks. I am still digging through some of my manuals.
     
  8. Johnny Gee
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    Cluster F***;)
     
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  9. vtx1800
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    This won't help with the org posters question but an "explosion story" none the less. Earl Guttenfelder (RIP) rebuilt a bunch of Saginaws back "in the day". The best story I heard, regarded Earl, with a car load of guys, a 396 Chevelle, a Saginaw and what was supposed to be a quick quarter mile dance:) Evidently he forgot? to take it out of reverse, on the hole shot the transmission dis***embled itself:( Earl was pretty talented mechanically but....maybe wasn't quite as careful that time than he should have been. Wish he was still around.
     
  10. wrenchbender
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    I have motor manuals at home but it will be next week before I get back home if you haven’t already found what your looking for I can scan my manual and I have an exploded one as well the one in the pic above looks good compared to mine most of the pieces were swept up at Byron dragway a few years ago when I had the Willys pickup there and match raced the hairy hauler Willys
     
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  11. 427 sleeper
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    This response took waaaaay longer than it should have... LOL!!! :p
     
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  12. deathrowdave
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    They are ok trans , but someone beat me to it , I saw one exploded view on one , looked like a hand grenade blew up to me .
     
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  13. Johnny Gee
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    Keep in mind that Muncie’s widest ratio was only 2:56 unlike a Saginaw that went all the way to 3:50. Torque multiplication is the killer here.
     
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  14. Wanderlust
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    86D964F4-F0CD-41DE-A942-35652C52CFE0.jpeg 5C64AD6C-071E-46CA-8F1F-F9E07407D7CA.jpeg I too have had an up close and personal view of an exploded Saginaw
     
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  15. Roothawg
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    I went scrounging through my old manuals. I found a pretty decent section in my 1970 Motors manual that should be what he needs. Thanks guys. I'll p*** on what you posted also.
     
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  16. no55mad
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    Anybody have good internals for 3.50 first gear Saginaw? Broken 1st gear and cluster.
     
  17. Johnny Gee
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    Here’s one of two. http://www.boxngeartransmissions.com/ I’ll get the second one when I return to my business cards. Both I’ve purchased manual parts from.
     
  18. Johnny Gee
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    ^^^^^ Here’s number two.
    94C91BDD-B47A-49BE-8645-58DAED2F51E8.png
     
  19. no55mad
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    TY for the parts sources!
     

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