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  1. unspectacular compression makes for some excellent pressure... someone say supercharger?
     
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  3. Thepartsbinguy1
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    The kB pistons in the good 327 are hyperut and I think I remember reading there no good for boost. I’m sure the rings in the $200 283 in the Jeep are still stuck and that’s why it’s always been a gutless pain in my ***. So putting the 142 on that’s out. if the 350 ever let go I would love to have this one setting back in wait. If the shop will press in a cam bearing and I find a stocker piston on eBay someday I can obviously continue on.
     
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    would really like to see what the piston looks like in the bore. If it is truly down 1/8 inch then that would explain why this engine got taken out of the car it was in. put a piston in so we can see, maybe you should be looking for the proper pistons (302 or 283 +.125) but we won't know until we see it....
     
  5. I went looking for heads for a 350 a few years ago and I found out the best flowing heads GM ever made are the Vortec heads and they make an adapter for the intake, just saying
     
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    Never heard of an adapter for them, just a Vortec intake needs to be used.
     
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    Would it be easier to find an SJ 327 crank than 302/283 +125 pistons? JW
     
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    I did the compression calculator on summits site and ***uming 64cc heads came up with 9.3:1 if there was a normal .020 deck height. and the comp drops to 6.7:1 if the piston is another .125 further down the hole... that would really be a pooch at that compression in my humble opinion
     
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    110D325F-EE7A-4F6C-A876-CC9E37C226BF.jpeg
    No need for +125 pistons and no it wasn’t removed from it’s home because of this it was removed because I wanted the engine and new nothing about it other then what they told me when they yanked it from the truck.
     
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    You know I will say one thing it spins over very freely even with the mains and that rod torqued down. Spun it to tdc by pushing on the crank gear with my finger.
     
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    yup, that piston is too far down the hole, the compression will be very low with that setup. you either need 283 +.125 pistons or 302 chev pistons
     
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    Was it this thread or another thread we talked about the incorrect pistons or rods, etc, being used? I’m too lazy to look through 7 pages;)
     
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    If it goes in the one cj the rear axle has 5.38 gears with a t90 we swapped in. If it goes in the other cj it will have the same 5.38 gears and a little 142 supercharger. But that’s only when or if the 350 ever let’s go. Leave the supercharger bolted to the intake unbolt it all as one and just swap the whole top end over to this one. It’s a 40’s Jeep that had 40hp stock. the 350 seems a little much now. Taming it down a bit if I had to wouldn’t be the worst. So I’m on the hunt for a stock part # 327 piston a few rings and the cam bearing/soft plug kit. Not the end of the world.. I choose junk.
     
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    Yup , choices are = 327 crank, new pistons
    302 pistons or 283 plus 125
    350 crank , custom ground to small journal and 350 pistons .
    A 327 crank sj are fairly inexpensive. Paid $30 for a std std forged .
    Pistons can be found used for the 327 but usually are fairly worn .
     
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    Love the 142 supercharger!
     
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    It was this thread I mentioned he was adamant he broke the crank and installed a 283 crank. And then other members chimed in and said it was a 301
     
  17. Budget36
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    I’ll send a set of hasting 4inch bore rings to you (new/unused) for factory replacement 350. Dingle ball hone it and use new rings. Not ideal, unless you take the cylinder ridge out, still not ideal to use , used rings.
     
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    Yea, seemed familiar.
     
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    ...so the guy actually built a LOW performance 302.
     
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    And told me it was a ripper :rolleyes: Edit: it had a heck of a job to do. I guess the 5.38 gearing helped. 1FFC55C0-9A62-4307-ACAE-A49B44B880B5.jpeg
     
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    6:1 compression, that thing is going to be real lazy....
     
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    I may have to figure out how pm’s work on here and grab that ring set. But I wouldn’t use all but four of them so it’s better there saved for someone who could really use all of them. And at this point I’m just tinkering anyway. Keeps me busy.
     
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    hover your curser over the persons name and then click on start a conversation... simple
     
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    Wait now hold on a second will 202 valves clear those reliefs with the piston down in the bore? I have a redone set of 461 heads with big valves but could never use them on the 283’s surly .125 down will let the big valves clear right?
     
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    Yes, but they would clear on any small block with a 4 inch bore regardless.
     
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    Are the reliefs bigger on a 327 piston? I have had three 283’s and none of them fit the big valves... so if I’m right the reliefs are bigger and even if I found a standard journal 327 crank and the pistons reached the top of the bore the big valves still wouldn’t hit?
     
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    The bore on a 283 is smaller than a 302/32735o, that's where the clearance issue is. JW
     
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    Will a standard 350 crank pistons and the connecting rods fit into my 327 block to make a 350 with no machining?? Hopefully I can get a quick simple answer as the whole 350 is all dis***embled and the guy only wants $25 dollars. I’m going to get it in the morning if I can get these brakes bled on this truck
     
  29. Moriarity
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    No it will not, the 350 has a large journal crank and it will not fit your small journal block

    Chevy V8 Crankshaft Journal Sizes
    Here's a list of Chevy V-8 crankshaft journal sizes. All journal sizes are given in "STANDARD" sizes. Your crankshaft may have been cut down in size previously by a machine shop. Make sure your crank will work in the block you have. Blocks were made for each crank main journal size. If you are putting a "small" or "medium" journal smallblock crank into a "medium" or "large" journal smallblock block you will need crank bearing "spacers" or use special "thick" bearings available from aftermarket suppliers.

    Small Block crankshafts
    Gen.I, "Small Journal"

    265...Mains-2.30"-Rods-2.00"
    283...Mains-2.30"-Rods-2.00"
    302...Mains-2.30"-Rods-2.00"
    327...Mains-2.30"-Rods-2.00"



    Gen.I, "Medium Journal", includes "Vortec" 305 and 350 thru '98

    262...Mains-2.45"-Rods-2.10"
    267...Mains-2.45"-Rods-2.10"
    302...Mains-2.45"-Rods-2.10"
    305...Mains-2.45"-Rods-2.10"
    307...Mains-2.45"-Rods-2.10"
    327...Mains-2.45"-Rods-2.10"
    350...Mains-2.45"-Rods-2.10"
    https://www.mortec.com/journal.htm
     
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