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Discussion in 'Traditional Customs' started by kwhmopar, Feb 17, 2023.

  1. kwhmopar
    Joined: Feb 16, 2023
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    kwhmopar

    Hello, I am new to this forum, but surely not new to cars. I could use some help identifying a grille. I think this grille is from a DeSoto. A relative had this in his garage, and unfortunately it is time to clean house. Looking up DeSotos, I feel it if from somewhere between 51-55. The front view makes me think 54, but the pictures I see online are usually longer, including the turn signals. Desotos had between 7-11 teeth along the years. This has 9, same as a 54. I know this is a popular style grille with the street rod crowd, especially for 50's Mercurys. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Kevin IMG_20230213_155733531.jpg IMG_20230213_155740746.jpg IMG_20230213_155827507.jpg Screenshot_20230214-081632-718.png
     
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  2. Budget36
    Joined: Nov 29, 2014
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    Might be my view, but looks like 4 different grille’s pictured?

    Which one are you referring to?
     
  3. manyolcars
    Joined: Mar 30, 2001
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    manyolcars

    top and bottom view
     
  4. Squablow
    Joined: Apr 26, 2005
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    You have a 1951 Kaiser grille bar with DeSoto teeth bolted to it. It's either '54 or '55 teeth that fit on the Kaiser bar, I want to say those are '54 teeth on that one but I could doublecheck to make sure.

    The DeSoto teeth fit really well on the Kaiser bar, but the Kaiser bar had more peak to it, so you'll notice the outer teeth are parallel with each other but are not perfectly parallel with the center tooth. That's due to the extra angle.
     
  5. guthriesmith
    Joined: Aug 17, 2006
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    Guessing Squablow got it. All I have to say is that it appears to be in pretty good condition too!
     
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  6. 1934coupe
    Joined: Feb 22, 2007
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    1934coupe
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    Wow Squablow I could not have put DeSoto and Kaiser and got that answer. Are you talking from experience.

    Pat
     
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  7. Squablow
    Joined: Apr 26, 2005
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    So it's definitely the smaller center teeth from a '55 that fit, the '54 teeth are too deep. It does appear to be in really, really nice shape, appears to have been rechromed. Pretty worthless to a restorer, but for a custom guy it's a really nice piece that someone would love to have.

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  8. kwhmopar
    Joined: Feb 16, 2023
    Posts: 3

    kwhmopar

    Wow, I would never have known about the Kaiser center bar. I do see what you mean about the peak being stronger than the DeSoto. Not seeing a DeSoto in person, I couldn't tell if it was just camera angles making the bar look less pronounced on the pictures. Thank you so much for the information. It was suggested to try asking here from a site I frequent called Moparts. I will let them know that there are some very knowledgeable and friendly people here. And also, thank you for answering my very first post on this site. I've seen where some places rather not be bothered. If I have information people can use, I am willing to share. Unfortunately I'm not up on the early 50's vehicles. Thanks, Kevin
     
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  9. desotot
    Joined: Jan 29, 2008
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    Wow! I have a perfect 51 Kaiser bar , now I will be looking for Desoto teeth.
     
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