Hey fellas, anyone got some spare time? Right now, I am focusing on two things: 1. Stamping Alliance Tags 2. Building Auctions for the upcoming launch of The Jalopy Auction House. I'm hyper focused on those two and have very little bandwidth for anything else... But, I know I need to be thinking about categorization of these auctions. For example, Fords should be categorized like this: Ford: - 1928-1931 - 1932 - 1933-1934 - 1935-1948 - etc... And I need to do this for all marks... Chevrolet, Buick, Olds, etc... Of course, I will also have specialty categories like race cars, parts, etc... but that will come later. Anyway, just thought I would see if anyone is willing to take a crack at it... Nothing too serious and certainly don't spend too much time on it...
I guess the best way to do this is just on the fly? Just post what ya think... we will have differences of perspective I'm sure... but I can take each and come up with something. So, pick a marque and post how you would categorize here. I'll take it from there... But don't feel obligated. Sincerely.
Ford is easy enough, V8 not a "custom" is either gonna be hot rod or stock. GMs may be a little harder, for example a 2x4 '57 283 chebby can be stock or hot rod. Stance, wheel tire combo, paint, engine rebuilt original or built, transmission are all things to take into consideration. I think that maybe we can use he same basic guidelines that you used for the HAMB drags entries. And modify them to fit your desires.
I would break up 35-36 and 37-42 and 46-48 49-51. Etc on the fords. Keep it with the body style changes.
Too many categories. Only need 3 Trad, almost trad and gold chainer but ***igning a car make/category to someone comfortable would make sense. A Chevy expert A Buick expert……….. Make a list of categories and have a member volunteer to refine each section we did a curriculum rewrite for the state. The state set up the template, divided up us “experts” in groups with template editing ability.
"War-Post-War Fords 1942 1946-1948 Ford V8 and 6 1942 1945-1947 Ford Truck (jail bar) V8 and 6 1948-1952 Ford F Series "Bonus Built" V8 and 6 1949-1951 Ford car "Shoebox" V8 and 6 1953-1956 Ford F Series "Effies" LV8, YV8, I6 1952-1954 Ford car LV8, YV8, I6 1955-1956 Ford car YV8, I6 1957-1960 Ford Truck YV8, I6 1957-1959 Ford car, YV8, FEV8, I6 1960 Ford car YV8, FEV8, I6 1960-1965 Ford Falcon, Futura and Sprint I6, Challenger SBFV8 "early 5bolt SBF" 1961-1964 Ford F series YV8, I6 (YBlocks, 223,263 I6 and straight axles" 1961-1962 Ford Fullsize Galaxie, '61 Fairlane YV8, FEV8, I6 1962-1965 Ford Fairlane "Little Fairlane" Challenger SBFV8, SBFV8, I6 1963-1964 Ford Fullsize "Galaxie" Challenger SBFV8, FEV8, I6 1965-1966 Ford F series "Twin I Beam" 240-300 big 6, FEV8 1965 Ford Fullsize FEV8, SBF, I6 Whew! Ford changed something almost every year. Some years (1960) is stand alone. You could almost consider 59, 61 and 62 as 1 year only body styles.
Hello, Isn't the idea of keeping it simple the plan? One of the more popular auction sites has two categories. American and not American. But for hot rods, the HAMB is not an isolationist group other than a year limit of 1965 and what is listed in the RULES. All of the categories for each brand for each grouping, however it is set up makes it a very long list and totally confusing. Yes, there are a lot of different makes and models. But to keep it simple, separate the for sale items in the years. 20's 30's 40's 50s 60s & stop at 65, just like what the HAMB RULES ARE POSTED. So, if we are in the market for a 1946 Ford, well guess what, despite what style, custom car, show car, hot rod, daily driver, etc, it will be posted in the 40s section. It does not matter if it is a sedan delivery or a panel delivery, mild custom or full custom, it is in the 40s section. Jnaki We are all in a phase of our lives to see what is what. The cl***ifications of years makes one look for what they want, any brand, any make or model or specific factory model name or recent slang term for that year of build. Just a simple "year category" takes into account all styles and models. A shoebox? Our wives have plenty of those in the larger closets across America. ha! Other wise, a 40-41 might have a ton of lists while the 53-54 may only have a blank space as per listing requirements. No one wants to have a blank category. Keep it simple and put in the "Year category" for all makes and models... no tabs with "likes" or not. It is not a popularity contest, but a site with a "sold" as the main goal. NOTE: Also, a reserve is popular as a bidding tool for the owner. Most want an exorbitant price from the beginning bid, so to reach the goal reserve. Why not just place the reserve total as a starter? YRMV
I’m no help, but I do remember when eBay was starting off. Had maybe 6/8 pages of listing for everything, I got some large wrenches, etc, after sifting through lamps, etc. See what it became. It even sounds off the eBay motors, I’d shudder to count all categories now. If there were 800 cars lined up, sure, separate them. But if it starts off with 30/50 cars, something small, put them all in the same listing. Side benefit is someone might go “ohhh, I didn’t realize that’s a good looking -insert brand/year. Guess what I’m saying is no need to start off with 100 categories that can’t be filled.
I like the idea of keeping it simple... 20's 30's 40's 50's 60's up to '65 And separate category for project cars/trucks
I like the idea of starting simple. I may be naive, but seems we are talking a fairly small number of vehicles for sale at any given time that fit the criteria of this auction site? If so, is categorization that critical in finding what auctions interest folks at any given time? Just thinking out loud... I obviously have no idea what all it takes to set something like this up.
Why not, indeed? Anytime buyers pre-register at an auction, the starting bid at the actual sale is determined by the highest pre-registered bid.
Think Agile methodology and define the minimum viable product (what us 'puter geeks refer to as MVP) to get the thing off the ground. You don't have to hit a home run right off the bat. Get the basics (year bands are good) and do frequent enhancements and fixes over time to add the bells and whistles. Some of these suggestions are attributes, not categories. Simplicity to start.
@Ryan , How fast do you think this will scale? The fewer empty categories you have at the start, the more successful it looks. I think you want very broad categories at the start, maybe even as few as Prewar FoMoCo, Postwar FoMoCo (& the same for GM & Mopar), Race Car & Other. If you choose year band categories for each make, choose broad ones that follow what was happening in the industry back then, such as: Buick to 1931 Buick 1932-1948 Buick 1949-1965 repeated for each brand, plus race cars (you probably only need one race car category). Whether you break out the independents by brand is up to you. You may want an 'Other' category for foreign or kit car-based hot rods/customs. After things get rolling you can break out popular categories like tri-fives, etc.
Ryan not sure what your ultimate vision is for this project but one word comes to mind KISS Cars Parts Seems to have worked on the HAMB for decades. Also check out what Adam and his crew are doing at Iconic Motorbikes. https://iconicmotorbikeauctions.com
keep it user friendly and simple get your and our feet wet and learn what works just dont overthink/complicate things ,, fabricator john miss you dad
Let me know if you need someone to help write vehicle descriptions, or to help copy-edit listings; maybe I can finally put my Media and Communications degree to work...
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