Cowl steering boxes, options please.

I looked in the tech section found two options F-1 and Ford Ranger box.
I know Kiwi kev used a VW box for his car.
What other boxes have you guys used???
Thanks
Pics would be appreciated.

 

'67-72 Dodge Dart. It's aluminum, has a long shaft, and doesn't need to be reversed, as I've seen. Johnnyfast used one.

 

The Raven and I are both useing Volvo Boxes. 41/4 turns lock to lock aluminum.

 

Great replies, keep'em comming, thanks

 

i've got a bmw 2002 box for my dodge project. Long sector shaft and turns in the right direction. If you can find them used they aren't too expensive...

 

Which model Volvo is that? 140, 144? Something like that? Any chance of posting a pic of the donor car? All I know about the Volvos I been finding in the 'yard is they're boxy and used to be good.

I've got a steel Ross box out in the garage. Pretty clean and doesn't look like it'll take too much work to reverse. I missed out on one that was already reversed! Went back with the right tools and they'd already cut the combine up!

Tim D.

 

Schroeder.

 

I don't get it.

 

Schoeder made (makes?) steering boxes for Sprints and such. Quite possibly the most traditional cowl steering box?

Tim D.

 

Thanks for the info.

 

81 F100 worked out great

 

Are the steering boxes in Australia, reversed, different the here???
Just wondering

 

This is how I built one for my C-Dan. Got a bunch of miles on it and it drives excellant.
LSM

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48367

 

Its a Saginaw box so i guess its the same over there just the box here mounts on the inside of the R/H rail and over where you are it bolts on the outside of the L/H rail

 

Yeah, schroeder still makes them the only hard part is the ratio they only have two to choose from 6:1 or 8:1. Here's how I set mine up.
Erik

 

Where can I get one???

 

Sorry, I should have elaborated. I got mine straight from them. They come up on ebay, but usually go for around 400-450. A brand new one built to your specs on shaft length, mounting style, ect is $600 with a pitman arm. I shortened the pitman arm quite a bit to help slow down the ratio, my A is 1 turn lock to lock. It sounds skechy, but it drives pretty good. They have a website, but get their number and call them. They were very helpful.
Crusty

 

www.schroedersteering.com

 

fair warning, the box in the Ranger tech article is NOT Ranger, it's Mazda.

 

Wow, it's quite pricee but sounds good.
I'm more into the el cheepo brand.

 

I'm that way too, but willing to splurge on one or two "must haves". These things are rad, they look like mini rear ends.

 

Going to run that Schroeder also. I have concerns about that long pitman arm. Does someone make a pitman arm that's a little shorter that will match that box's 1" spline?

 

Two things you shouldn't cheap out on are steering and brakes. Your life or the lives of your kids/friends are all that is at stake. Just my opinion.

 

I guess steering is as important as brakes, my brake setup is topnotch but I figured for such a simple task as steering, I might get away with some used parts.

 

if you're speaking of my "Ranger" tech article, you're half right...it's NOT from a late model Ranger, as I had been led to think. it's from an F100.

 

My midget pitman arm has the 1" spline. Bought it from Kear's speed shop in Ohio....$32.

 

Excellent! Thanks! I'll see if they have a website.

 

1 turn lock to lock? Wow that sounds like it would result in a seriously stiff steering effort at low speeds and twitchy as heck at high speeds. Okay I can understand that cowl steering mostly is used in light roadsters so the steering effort might not be too bad but what about the behavior at highway speeds? Does the effort remain so high that such a quick ratio actually reduces twitchiness?

 

Anyone know if any other stock type steel pittman arms have a 1" spline? I noticed Borgeson stocks some pittman arms as OEM replacments, but it doesn't say what the spline is. Here's one of the pages:
http://www.borgeson.com/Merchant2/m...ode=BUOS&Product_Code=806005&Category_Code=PA

Would like to run a cast one on mine if possible.

 

Yes and yes. It is pretty stiff around town, but livable. Its a hot rod right? On the freeway it seems to get easier to steer and twitchiness isn't a problem. 1 turn sounds crazy, but it drives pretty nice. I've put about 4000 miles on it this summer so far, all is good.