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History Circle track poser? Late 40s ford and a model A circle track sumthin

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  1. Poser? The WS is throwing me off. 2A3458BE-570A-4726-BDB3-A9502FA97438.jpeg 928A4F6E-E7BA-4BD3-8D61-ACAAB394BA00.jpeg 79BDFE75-31FF-4443-9583-C2A3B6CAD564.jpeg C3A41133-CEA3-405C-9F3C-31AD64A74DAB.jpeg
     
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  2. And this A.
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    what is this, circle track experts
     
  3. studebakerjoe
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    The A looks like one of those "legends" series cars where they narrow the body up a bunch. The 22 car looks like a 46-48 Ford coupe with a mid 30's Ford truck grille but it is kinda weird that they'd put a glass windshield in it, if it was ever actually raced, it wouldn't have had glass in it like that. Totally filled seams in the doors and shaved driprails signal to me that this car was heavily bondo'd up to get repainted, might have been raced and then redone later as a parade car or display vehicle.
     
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  6. indyjps
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    Maybe....old race car that was paved with filler to smooth the sides and updated with windshield, threw a patina paint job on ?

    Likely.....a shell that didn't have enough parts to build, put back on the road as a race car recreation.

    Up Side, it's drivable and not sitting in a yard.
     
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  7. tubman
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    My dirt modified (which was the "Minnesota Stock Car" champion in 1966) has a '34 Chevy coach bode narrowed shortened, and sectioned almost beyond recognition. The only way I could finally figure out what is was is when someone showed up at a vintage race with a full-bodied version that allowed me to identify it from the reveal line (I'm still not absolutely sure). Of course, it lost all semblance of doors in the process. Mine is hard enough to get in and out off; I'd hate to try it with late 40's Ford.

    They were very free with their definition of "stock car" in the Midwest back then.
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  8. gnichols
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    The A is an X modified - a very real race car and in no way a legends car.
     
  9. gnichols
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    The 22 looks like an authentic sportsman car.
     
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  10. alanp561
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    Depending on the track, and or, the association rules. I've run on asphalt tracks that allowed windshields and some that required them. Sure would like to see a head on picture showing the right front tire.
     
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  11. Marty Strode
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    The 22 could have been built to race, anytime. These are a couple of the cars that ran locally until 2006, we had over 20 during that time. Notice the doors welded and and smoothed over, real Henry sheet metal. 2012-08-10 120120.jpg
     
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  12. wahoo
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    NEAR stands for New England Antique Racing. The 22 is prob. a real racecar "restored" for shows and parade laps. They also allow recreations, but I think that's a real one.
     
  13. MMM1693
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    Just an old model A Modified. Hales Corners Wisc ran that type of car for years and always a great show.
     
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  14. dirt car
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    I've a coupe already, but keep that Vicky out of harm's way.
     
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    from Upstate NY

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  16. It depends on what part of the country you live in what a car like this was called.

    In New England they were called cut downs.

    Here in upstate NY and in Pennsylvania they were called Bugs.

    In Florida (Hialeah area) and Georgia they were called Skeeters

    "Dynamite" Ollie Silva's New England Cut Down
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    A name that should be familiar with all H.A.M.B.ers

    Bud Hinman's Bug
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    The hot rod Bud built at 13
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    Bud at T.R.O.G.
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    Bud and his Super Mod
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    Bud Hinman, My father Willard, and myself
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    Restored Florida/Georgia Skeeter
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    It's not necessarily a modified in stockcar racing the engine i.e.-Fuel used induction, multiple carburetors, fuel injection, super chargers, the ignition- magneto, not the body are what make it a modified.

    A stock car is a racecar was based on an OEM Chassis and Body, over the years as frames became harder to find they switched to tube chassis, but retained OEM sheet metal, then hand built slab side bodies.

    So, despite the modern revisionist definition, modern dirt late models, I.M.C.A. modifieds, and north east center steer D.I.R.T. modifieds are stock cars!
     
  17. NASCAR required windshields in Modified and Sportsman into the late 60s early 70s

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    NASCAR Sportsman warm up night at Fonda speedway 1953 all cars have windshields
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    NASCAR Sportsman cars at Fonda in the early 60s all cars had windshields

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    Even my dad's 64 Chevelle that ran NASCAR late model at Fonda in the early 70s had to have a windshield.
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    "Likely... a shell that didn't have enough parts to build."

    And/or lots of lower body rust.
     
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  19. gene-koning
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    This one is all fake. It has been on a dirt track, and its run a few hard laps, but that was after I assembled the car.

    Apparently, I did a pretty good job at faking it.

    We were on a vacation on the western edge of Iowa, We stopped at a walmart (my wife was with me, need I say more? :p). From way across the parking lot this big old boy came huffing towards us waving his arms around. After he caught his breath, he wanted to know where we found Hal's old race car. Hal ran a 48 Plymouth at a local track. It was the same number, and was painted just like Hal's car was, even had the same wheel cut outs and bumpers! He insisted it was Hal's old car, even after I tried to hint to him it probably was not. He was persistent, and was telling us about this one race where Hal ran the car. He really wanted to know how and where I was able to find Hal's old car.
    I finally relented that I found the old Plymouth behind a fence line in Woodstock IL (the truth). We took a couple pictures with him beside Hal's old car with his phone, and he thanked me for keeping it just like Hal raced it.
    My only regret was I should have found out more about Hal when I had the chance.

    The headlights and windshield didn't bother Hal's friend at all, but then, maybe they were present on Hal's car too.
     

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  20. Fonda was and still is a half mile dirt track, note the windshields in the first photo per NASCAR rules.
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    The black top strip in the infield is the old (NASCAR) drag stirp where Shirley Muldowney goy her legal racing start.
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  21. Squablow
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    I did not know that, about the windshields. Interesting stuff. I'm far from an expert on circle track race cars, I would not have guessed that.
     
  22. Many times, they would add a secondary windshield. It was on hinges and with a handle, they would start the race with down, if it became covered clay/mud the driver would reach out grab the handle and flip the secondary windshield up so they could see.

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    The precursor to the modern helmet tear offs

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