Today I got a angle adapter to look at ( as I can bought ) It's Simca made ( France ) but it has a Ford logo on it. Not a clue on years, but maybe this engines was in military or industrial maybe at 60's or the 70's ? It might fit for my aplication but the magnet will be maybe up to 1" higher up than a 8BA cam cover, and it might look odd. Was this something USA hot rodders used, or was this something from 'another part of the world and later on' and that never came to USA hot rodders ? CC from cam cover to center is 3" so its between the short and long normal angle adapters I has seen.
My guess is that it's either French Army use or possibly industrial application. They probably didn't want to deal with the crab distributor any more than they had to.
That was for a Simca V8 which was a later Europeon version of the Ford V860. You can adapt just about any modern ignition to the drive including various magnetos but angle drives never work as well as direct drives. Other parts of the engine can be adapted to the 60 for racing. We used to make stroker cranks for the 60 out of Simca cranks. We couild get 166 ci with stroke and bore. That is the cl*** limit.
Hopefully it comes with the drive shaft and the TWO gears that are needed to make it work. You may want to find the distributor that goes with it - just for the lower drive gear. You could probably shorten it to bring a magneto further down, but hard to tell how it might fit unless one mocks up an engine with a fan belt and generator up top.
I has the gears, axles ( look decent ) Pete1, Well a direct drive ( 8BA ) will be better than a extern drive but in reality both has angle gears and it rotates - so in reality how much less ’good’ is the angle adapter design the pratical way see a ’issue’ from the 8BA. This Simca unit, hmm, should actually work on my aplication and its made by Ford, ( but )
I have the same one for my 81A and will run with magneto. There is one problem with this stetup. Magneto is almost touching v-belt. It's very close. I also have original distributor which is made by Scintilla.
Do you mean magneto? If so it's not adjusted yet. Weights are located in the base of the magneto and you can change/ adjust them. A little bit complicated and time consuming. Original dizzy photos for reference:
I’mean gears etc on the angle adaptor from the straight 8BA design. As some said it was not as accurate.
Could be due to backlash in the gears? If it's set up with that mind it shouldn't have a problem. I don't have direct experience though
It depends on gears condition and it`s not adjustable. You need a little bit clearence anyway..it can`t be to tight.
I use an angle drive on my crossflow six with two bevel drive gears (Boston HLK101-Y). It seems to work OK up to 7000 RPM. I know two bevel gears compared to a scroll gear drive is not an apples / apples comparison, but aside from an additional point of backlash I do not think driving a right angle flathead distributor would be an issue.
Yes, I guess in drag mode in gear its no issues but all engines has gears, chain, belt. The 8BA has also a gear deal from cam to distributor.
Dale to use this drive its actually easy first the drive to the cam is typical early Ford just an off center tang that locates into the cam slot. The distributer drive is exactly the same way the shaft is simply offset so no additional gear is needed. This right angle drive is actually really neat especially considering the Ford script. I have one fir a distributer I simply modified a two piece cap Mallory distributer cut down from a Chevy. Ronnieroadster
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