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Technical Chevy 235 squeking, not the belt

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Kaptain Kustom, May 16, 2023.

  1. Kaptain Kustom
    Joined: Apr 7, 2010
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    Kaptain Kustom
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    from Finland

    Hi,

    I have a '50 Chevy with a 261. There is a squeking noise coming from the front of the engine. It sounds just like a loose belt (which I thought it was for half a year, swapping belts, etc.) BUT the same noise is there even if I take the belt off.

    The noise is worst when engine is hot and idling. Especially with the gear on (auto trans). It does not shake excessively.

    I put a new gear set with aluminum cam gear in a couple of years ago when I had the engine apart. The crank pulley / balancer is an old one from a 235. Timing cover has an added check plug. I managed to squirt oil in via it; no effect on the noise.

    The engine was sounding normal for a year or two, and has squeled for a couple of months now. It has oil pressure.

    Does anyone have any ideas? It's driving me crazy.
     
  2. JohnLewis
    Joined: Feb 19, 2023
    Posts: 529

    JohnLewis
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    With the belt drive disconnected, the only thing spinning would be the cam and crank. I had a buddy complain of a squeaking in his motor. When we tore it down we found this. IMG_5661.JPG
     
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  3. BJR
    Joined: Mar 11, 2005
    Posts: 10,346

    BJR
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    Are the rocker arms in the front of the engine getting oil?
     
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  4. Budget36
    Joined: Nov 29, 2014
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    Budget36
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    Cheap way to turn a journal I guess;)
     
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  5. wheeltramp brian
    Joined: Jun 11, 2010
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    Maybe see if you can squirt some oil at the front crank seal?
     
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  6. KoolKat-57
    Joined: Feb 22, 2010
    Posts: 3,081

    KoolKat-57
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    from Dublin, OH

    Could it be the distributor? Does yours have an oil cap on it? Just a thought.
    KK
     
  7. BJR
    Joined: Mar 11, 2005
    Posts: 10,346

    BJR
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    On the Y block forum they talk about the ring on the front crank damper coming loose and causing a squeak. I believe it moves and rubs on the timing chain cover. I know it's not a Y block but you may want to look at that also.
     
  8. Kaptain Kustom
    Joined: Apr 7, 2010
    Posts: 151

    Kaptain Kustom
    Member
    from Finland

    Thank you all very much for your suggestions (also the frightening ones) !

    This one crossed my mind also earlier, but the area didn't seem dry, so I forgot it. However, seems like it really was something this simple and easy! Your comment made me consider it again and try it. Needless to say how relieved and happy I am. Thanks for your ingeniousness!
     
  9. flatheadpete
    Joined: Oct 29, 2003
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    flatheadpete
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    from Burton, MI

    Nice! Happy you figured it out.
     
  10. wheeltramp brian
    Joined: Jun 11, 2010
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    wheeltramp brian
    Member

    Sweet very nice! Maybe time for a new front crank seal is that one may have dried out so much that is squeaking that bad even with oil being behind it
     
  11. jimmy six
    Joined: Mar 21, 2006
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    jimmy six
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    It rubs on the front “steady rest” that bolts to the timing cover. I removed mine after I had the Damper Doctor repair the damper.
     

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