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Technical 1936 ford eletric fuel pump has me at wits end

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Dooley, May 15, 2023.

  1. Dooley
    Joined: May 29, 2002
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    Dooley
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    from Buffalo NY

    20230506_162342.jpg Sigh.....350 chevy in my 36 ford.

    Had a carter and now facet pump and keep getting fuel starvation issues.


    Stock tank and fuel line from tank, was going over the crossmember to the pump and then to the motor.
    Had issues at half tank with the pump still running but no fuel.
    Changed pumps to the Facet from the Carter and same issues.

    Then moved the fuel pump lower than the tank ran all new lines away from all and any heat source....
    So now the line comes off the tank to a 90 degree fitting to the pump and up and over the crossmember to the motor.
    Took for a ride to add gas to the tank and still having problems.


    Same issue, I thought it was a venting issue so I placed a funnel in the gas cap keeping it open and still problems...
    I have a holley with clear sight bowls and I can see that there is no fuel getting there while the pump is running.


    And I added a fuel pump relay wire kit as well....

    Pay no attention to the wiring is been fixed
     
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  2. dwollam
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    Pickup tube in the tank plugged or rusted off or full of holes?

    Dave
     
  3. Johnny Gee
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    I see a lot of hose. How is the hard line if any?
     
  4. Dooley
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    Hard line from tank about 2 inches then hose to pump them about 12 inch of hose to hard line to motor
     
  5. pprather
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    Is that an original tank?
    What fuel pickup is in the tank?
     
  6. Dooley
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    Yes original tank and I guess i need to see what's in the tank...it looks like there is a female fitting in the tank but I'll have to see what's inside
     
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  8. JohnLewis
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    I've run into issues with that on bobcats where the line inside the tank would deteriorate and not draw fuel from the mid to lower tank. Run fine when fully fueled or drawing from a external tank. Same difference and like previously stated, I'd see what the sending unit itself is looking like.
     
  9. With today's fuel, the sock in the tank is probably clogged up.
     
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  10. Kerrynzl
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    Or you could put the hose into a gas can and go for a drive.
    If the problem persists , then it is not the tank.
     
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  11. dirt t
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    Is the cap or tank vented?
    dirt t
     
  12. '29 Gizmo
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    '29 Gizmo
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    Whats the pump rated at (GPH)
     
  13. Dooley
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    Dooley
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    Yes it is.
     
  14. Dooley
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    Dooley
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    12 – 24 inches dry lift
    20 – 45 GPH
    2.5 – 8 PSI
     
  15. Dooley
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    Dooley
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    When I get home from work I can pull the sending unit from the top of tank to see if I can see inside.
     
  16. Dooley
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    Got this on the Fordbarn gives me something to look for 20230516_153822.jpg
     
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  17. Dooley
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    20230516_171351.jpg 20230516_171252.jpg 20230516_171351.jpg 20230516_171252.jpg 20230516_171351.jpg Hmm
    Found this at the end of the pickup tube
     
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  18. Looks like I was close. That doesn't look like a sock but would have the same affect as a clogged sock.
     
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  19. Dooley
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    It looked like a small piece at the end of the tube. Grabbed it and thought it was a tape worm... lol
    Think it is tape.... car sat for 20 years who knows
     
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  20. tommyd
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    You'll sleep better tonight now.
     
  21. Dooley
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    Dooley
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    Didn't sleep for **** last night lol
     
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  22. 1940Willys
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    Car lovers are just a glutton for punishment. Lay underneath them contorting our old selves in ways we know we'll be paying for the body aches the next day. Endure the embarr***ment we get from the flatbed rides we get back to home. We get turned upside down till all the money falls from our pockets. All this just because I can remember my dad tinkering away on some mechanical issue in the same Garage I'm now working in now. What the Heck is that, a Tank Snake Clogging? I'll bet that's it! I hope it is!
     
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  23. Ron Emerson
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    Ron Emerson

    Hey Dooley, it’s Ron with the 1935/1936 Ford Cabriolet I hate to but in on your post but I am glad you found something that was blocking your fuel . I have a question for you I am in need of the “A” pillar wood for the windshield where the inside molding attaches to. Now I am sure there are pieces of wood in there because I was stupid and let some slip through my hands. I don’t even have a piece to copy. We are originally from The Buffalo area( North Tonawanda to be exact) we have been in Sunny Florida for 35 years. Any help that you can give me would be appreciated greatly. Thanks ahead of time and have a great Summer. We are on or way to our Summer cottage on the St. Lawrence river in Cape Vincent NY
     
  24. Glenn Thoreson
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    I've run into this problem before. Pickup tube either has a hole in it part way up or is broken off. If the tank has been sitting a long time (many years) with old gas in it, it can rot the tube, usually at the top surface of said gas, leaving a hole in it. The engine will run out of gas when it reaches that level. Sometimes it will rot completely off. You need an endoscope, such as the one pictured. That's what I use when I run across this. The tube would usually have either a screen on the end or a sintered bronze filter.
     
  25. Dooley
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    Dooley
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    I was missing mine on one side and just used a piece of wood cut to fit
     

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