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Technical 241 Motor Mounts

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by dart4forte, Jul 1, 2023.

  1. dart4forte
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    Looking for some motor mount options for my 241 Hemi Dodge. 241 lacks block casting so other option are being considered. And meaningful suggestions are welcomed
     
  2. choptop40
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    Got pics of the block...maybe fabricate a hurst style to bolt to the front of the block...
     
  3. woodscaper
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    Factory had a front mount (Hurst style). Might be able to find one or fab it up, rather simple. Here's one, partially done, and a factory one. IMG_2025.JPG 34' chassis009.JPG
     
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  4. dart4forte
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    I’m running the HH timing cover
     
  5. dart4forte
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    I currently have this but the bolt holes don’t line up. Got it from HH it appears the spacers are also too short
     

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  6. 73RR
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    If you mount to the front cover bolts you might consider d&t for 3/8 screws.
     
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  7. Mr cheater
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    Hurst type motor mount but like 73RR said you will want to use 3/8 bolts instead of the 5/16 bolts or if you are still running the stock water pump you can build a mount off of that
     
  8. Marty Strode
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    This is what I did using the HH front cover, and Chevy water pump. I made several blanks, with a laser cutting co, that has since sold. They have a 250 dollar min, and have my program. Built similar to a Hurst. P7310014.JPG P1010007.JPG
     
  9. dart4forte
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    D&t?
     
  10. gimpyshotrods
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    Combo mount and Chevy water pump adapters. T1.jpg
     
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  11. gimpyshotrods
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    Drill & tap.
     
  12. AndersF
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    I used the stock Dodge mount in the front.
    And made a crossmember that i bolted to the transmission in the rear to take the torque.


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  13. 56C3B6
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    One I built, copied from a picture I saw somewhere. IMG_1502 (2).JPG
     
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  14. Those billet water pump motor mount things really stick out on a hot rod. Some corner rounding, hole dilling in the milled slot, and paint go along way in making them less obvious.
     
  15. gimpyshotrods
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    I suggested it to the customer, but he likes them the way I made them.
     
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  16. Sorry; thought that was a Hot Heads water pump adapter/mount not one of yours. Looks just like the Hot Heads' mount that was on Chad's 241 we swapped into his A coupe.
     
  17. gimpyshotrods
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    This frame is narrow enough that the HH ones would have required mounts that cantilevered off of the outside of the frame rails.
     
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  18. Atwater Mike
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    There were a couple of Dodge 241 hemis with stock mounts at SoCal party (night before Fathers Day show)
    Nicely finished, looked like 'speed parts'.
    My Hemis are Chrysler and DeSoto, so I was unfamiliar with the Dodge block lacking ears!
    I'm sure I ran across that in my apprentice years, as we worked on all kinds of Chrysler products. Too long ago!
    GOOD thread, bet this will help many.
     
  19. dart4forte
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    I would think that with the weight that it supports good grade 5 bolts are called for.
     
  20. 73RR
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    Yes, Gr5 is appropriate but, in the larger size. The mount you showed and the verbiage seem to indicate that the mount was spaced away from the block/front cover. Yes? If so you should also take a hard look at the attachment in terms of the location of which bolts are used and how many. No, I am not familiar with your mount design. Perhaps some additional photos?
     
  21. Andy
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    I made a Hurst style mount. It features a tie bar brace as I had little room at the bottom. The tie rod runs near it. The pan was modified and is now a rear sump and also shorter for ground clearance. I did drill out to use 3/8 bolts. It has worked just fine for a really long time. D8E994D1-9BBD-427B-B40A-CB60E42749D5_1_201_a.jpeg C82F38E5-5F92-44AE-B96D-8E8D35904579.jpeg
     
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  22. dart4forte
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    I’m working on another project so as soon as I can I’ll mock up the mount and take some pics.
     
  23. dart4forte
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    I’m back on the mount project on the 241. Decided to take several suggestions made. One is to drill and tap for 3/8”. A lot stronger. To add to the strength I’m going with another suggestion of using 3/8” grade 8 studs. This coupled with Loctite should give me the strength I need.

    I’ll need to address the cradle mount I got from Speedway. The four round spacers that space the mount a 1/4” from the block are poorly welded and one is slightly off center od the mounting hole. I figure new spacers
    and re-welding is in order.
     

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