I bought a set of 4" dies a few years ago and they hold up well on my press but had to adapt them to my machine which is a shop built hydralic with an air over pump. 16 and 18 Ga no problem but it struggles with 14 gauge on the floors ( have to dress the cutting edge so only on My projects) I know this is a old thread but I ordered some off ebay from England Half Mittler Bros price even with shipping and they work well on 16 and 18 ga.