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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Chris430, Aug 2, 2023.

  1. Chris430
    Joined: Feb 7, 2023
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    Chris430

    I go to a local yard to buy project metal. Today I found an 3 bolt main Ford 4 cylinder and what looks like an addon heater box. The internals are all there on the engine, don't know how the block broke. You guys recognize the make and years of the parts. I bought the heater box for some reason.

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  2. Joe Blow
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    Late 40's Kaiser Frazer air conditioner.
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  3. Looks like a Model A engine.......or what's left of one.
     
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  4. rusty valley
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    I'm gonna say its a T engine. No hole for the oil filler tube, well...there is a dark spot in the photo in about the right place, but the crank looks T also
     
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  5. Chris430
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    Chris430

    Ahh, that explains why the "heater core" tubing looked so thick. The motor up top, did that syphon refrigerated air to the heater box for dehumidified defroster?

    They said the owner p***ed away and his son was cleaning out his garage. There is a variety of car engines in that pile. At .30 cents a pound it is easy to get distracted from your original reson for the trip.
     
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  6. Chris430
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    Either one of you guys have a use for the guts out of it?
     
  7. 62rebel
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    Mind you, the term "air conditioner" in those days seldom meant "refrigerated", just "heated". There's no cooling going on in that unit.
     
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  8. BJR
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    It's just a hot water heater with a blower on top to circulate the hot air through the heater core.
     
  9. BamaMav
    Joined: Jun 19, 2011
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    Looks like a heater / defroster unit. If the core doesn’t leak would make a nice addition to any car or truck that didn’t have heat.
     
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  10. the oil soup
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    If the water is hot, why do you need to heat it?
     
  11. woodiewagon46
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    No, it's not Model A, the casting is different.
     
  12. sunbeam
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    Model T ser number falls in June of 1925.
     
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  13. Chris430
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    It has two motors. One pull fan after the core and the small one up top.
     
  14. BJR
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    Good question. If you want to ponder stuff like that, ponder this. If someone is talking behind your back, they are in front of you. You have two arms, and two arm pits, you have two legs, but only one leg pit.
     
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  15. BJR
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    The one on top is usually for the defrosters, but I don't see where it pulls the hot air from.
     
  16. Chris430
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    Chris430

    The bigger fan pulls air straight from the the hole in the back. It appears that there would be some kind of louver under the hood to close off outside air and just pull air from the inside. Maybe the owner of a working unit will respond.

    EDIT: Yeah it makes sense like you said. My 65 F-100 and 250 work similar. Got to flip a lever to cut off the under dash heat and reroute it to the defroster.
     
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  17. Chris430
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    Measured the back. Thick compared to other heater cores I've dealt with as far back as a 1962 year model. No bevel on the end or burs inside like a tube cutter would have left. If it was refrigerated air conditioning I would think this area was prone to leak or blow apart. A heater hose over this end aught to stay put with a low pressure cooling system.
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  18. Joe Blow
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    It was a heater/defroster. Kaiser-Frazer called it "Air Conditioning" because by strict definition, it did condition the interior air (heated).
     
  19. Squablow
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    Impressive ID job on that heater. I pride myself on **** like that but I wouldn't have gotten that one. Would be a good add-on to any early car that needs a heater, it's a nice, self contained unit.

    I don't think the guts of that T engine have any real value. The small bits are already stripped off and I don't know if I'd trust a babbited rod or a crank out of that block with a giant window in the side like that. Nice thought to try and save it but I don't think there's anything good there, not a big market for T engine bits anyway. Heater was worth saving, though.
     
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  20. Joe Blow
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    Thanks man.
     
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  21. Chris430
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    Chris430

    My old 65 Ford goes out in what ever weather, what ever this unit blew out my thought was to put it in the camper shell for the dogs if we have to travel on 100+ degree days. It can get too hot in this ugly aluminum box. May be better off rigging it with a small window unit.
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    We've had zero degrees a couple of times last year. Might as well rig up some heat in the back. Dogs lives are short, if we are capable might as well treat them decent.
     
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  22. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    Don't try running it on 12 volts. I ruined one that way.
     
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  23. Chris430
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    Chris430

    Thank you, didn't think of that.
     
  24. gene-koning
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    If it has a double blower, it should move a lot of air under that bed cover. Add water hoses with a shut off valve and you get heat in the winter, and a fan moving the hot air around in the summer. I think both would probably be helpful for the dogs.

    Those 6 volt motors can probably be swapped out with 12 volt motors. NAPA used to have a selection of cheap, small, 12 volt fan motors, don't know if they still do or not. Match up the shaft size, the rpms, and the outer size if you have a space problem.
     
  25. I have two of those little blower gizmo,s. They fit on just about every vintage heater. The little blower is usually up behind the dash and out of sight.

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