Back in the late 60's early 70's I saw some of my photos show up in magazines and I didn't get credit. I can live with that as I got paid what I wanted for what I did. What I didn't count on however is seeing my pictures in mags with credit going to the ***hole I worked for. Using the pics was great. Putting his name on them as the photographer ****ed. Too many people climb to the top by stepping on everyone else along the way.
Cool! Dude your rod is famous now! hehe. Maybe in the future kids will be saying it was that rod on the Duluth catalog that was their inspiration to get in to hot rodding. I would call Duluth to see how they respond. To put it in perspective most guys would have to pay $300+ to have someone do a nice illustration of their rod like that. ($300-$500 was a price I got to do my truck) If they don't treat you right then go track down the artist and rough him up, break his damn pencil.
<font color="red"> So chopt50 you think it makes the Road Rash better???...you must have some ****ed eyes cause I tell ya they don't work too well.........that is one of my Favorite rides of all time. . .It is EVIL(been fliped over and lived to drag). . .It goes fast(12's). . It was built on a Budget(less than $4K). . .Hell I could explain it to ya but you would never get "IT"........ and for making it better!!!..them are the worst flames I have ever seen!!........get a clue you *****! R E D M E A T </font>
Thats on EBAY? wow man, im gonna make a bunch of road rash merchandise and make a fortune... West Coast Choppers look out! -J.
If you don't own the photo you have no recourse. The photographer might but just on the photograph. As far as art, you can't tell me that you have never tried to draw a picture from a photo!
Gooch, what the hell do you do for a living? Some of us work as designers and illustrators and deal with copyright law every day. It's hard enough trying to make a living without some jerk-off telling everyone it's ok to rip me off. Ever heard of professional ethics?!
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] THIS IS ****ING GAY [/ QUOTE ] YES!!! I AGREE- who cares if it yer car, and since it is, you should be stoked that someone likes yer ugly *** car enough to trace it and use it on there adverti*****t. At least they made it look better than it actuallt does [/ QUOTE ] CHOPTOP 50 Lets see what your so proud about? Ugly car? His car is pure hotrod thru and thru, its driven everywhere and I'm sure it would spank anything you could build. To top it all off I have a 100.00 bucks you wouldn't be man enough to say that to Kieths face.
<font color="red"> Oh he might have the balls to say it ONCE, Superbell. . .then . . .CRACKA. . . .HAHA.....Kmember would spank his *** on or off the track.....Kmember is a truely great Hot-Rodder and person, I am glad to count him as one of my best frainds of all time........ R E D M E A T P.S......Road rash in Action!</font>
[ QUOTE ] The only copyright problem I see in that post is the scanned page of the Duluth catalog posted on this website without permission !! [/ QUOTE ] Copyright images CAN be reproduced,without permission,for what is called "Fair Use". Reproducing the catalog cover here would be considered "Fair Use". If I was to steal images from Empire32's site,and sell them on T-shirts or use them on a catalog cover without permission,that is not considered fair use. That would be copyright imfringement. I don't remember Mart being "flattered",a couple years ago, when some guy was selling t-shirts with images stolen from his site. Copyrights explained. Copyright myths explained. Permission to publish. Copyright law and protection Copyright law - over view. http://www.copyright.gov/
More **** slinging from CHOPT50. Click on the above link to see what CHOPT50 had to say about another cool HAMBer's car. What the hell is your problem Chopt50? Are you a hot rod god or something? Here is what he said about 38chevy454's Modified (awsome car BTW)... [ QUOTE ] I tried really hard, but i just could not leave this post without telling you that that is the ugliest rod I have ever seen. You should part it out instead of selling it, but the parts came off even uglier cars, so well.. just crash it into a wall or something. You are stereotyping hot rods as ugly pieces of **** like yours, and most of them are not. [/ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] YES!!! I AGREE- who cares if it yer car, and since it is, you should be stoked that someone likes yer ugly *** car enough to trace it and use it on there adverti*****t. At least they made it look better than it actuallt does [/ QUOTE ] You sir, are a complete douche bag.
Looks like he is a ****? What we have here,are a perfect example of a rod built to be driven! Road Rash sucsessfully reveals the owner\builders taste,and knowledge,and will only look better as time leaves it traces. It has an AT***UDE. this cant be argued about. I like the cars stance,I like the revell\hot wheels,cartoon\tattooer style it has in my opinion. K-member is an artists and his rides reflect that. Its art. WMFFWM Z
I have "borrowed" photos from Carnut.com an many occasions to post here as reference or point of conversation. I usually give credit to George and his website. He even emailed me and thanked me for giving him credit. I do not know much about copyright laws, but do know that if you take any photograph that has the photographers name across the body of the image, to a film developer or printer, you will not get it copied. I have "borrowed" photos from here, but have noticed that the pros have their name across the body of the picture, And, in conclusion, I think it is very rude to take pot shots at someones car here, unless you know the individual and are just jesting with him/her. Jim
I am not sure how this turned in to a car bashing session. At least for some folks. K-member's hot rod is the reason I am here today. Several years ago I was going north on Hwy 99 in Seattle, when this hot rod made my business car turn off the road. I stomped in to the Tattoo shop and said: Who the hell owns that hot rod out there?? K-member came out, spend some time with me, hell he even let me sit in it. I drove home that day, sold my muscle car and parts, and now I am building a...you guessed it. A Model A hot rod! About the picture: I have no plans to go after Duluth at this point, but this conversation does bring up some point about copyrights. A lot of folks on the HAMB are artists, and they make a living at it, so it has to be respected. My 2 cents...
I say if i take my own pics of cool cars at rod runs, then chop em in sodapop, to where you couldnt recgognise them, then the final peice is owned by me, no one else. Its just like taking a car that everyone sees as a 49 ford. You customize it yourself with crazy body modifications, now its your body, not Fords. In all fairness, the amount of your car you can see in that drawing isnt enough, in my opinion, to prove it was your car. the little things do add up, lugnuts and such. But Im guessing that ever since they started chopping and hotrodding those cars, theres been millions and millions of pictures taken of them. And Im sure that there was one at the same perspective, with the same chop and everything. Not saying thats what happened, but im not saying it couldnt of happened either. If it was a unique, crazy, one of a kind body style, like a Big Daddy creation, then ok, youd have a case, but a black chopped rod with red steelies?? At any rate, I think the car IS unique and very bad ***, I like it a lot! I also like the poster too! And who was the one that made a comment about the lazy *** artist that just stole and didnt do anything. What about all the guys there he had to draw? theres more lines in one of them than in the whole car! Anyways, good tread, at least I learned more about the people on here and where some stand on issues like these
[ QUOTE ] you should be stoked that someone likes yer ugly *** car enough to trace it and use it on there adverti*****t. [/ QUOTE ] And when some Crack Head steals your wallet, your TV, your tools, your car, you should be stoked he wanted your **** more than you did. What higher compliment could possibly be paid than to steal the results of your hard work? What color is the sky on your planet?
[ QUOTE ] What color is the sky on your planet? [/ QUOTE ] Holy **** thats funny! I'm gonna be saying that all the time now..... (and I ain't gonna give you any credit for it either! I'm just going to act like I made it up... )
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] THIS IS ****ING GAY [/ QUOTE ] YES!!! I AGREE- who cares if it yer car, and since it is, you should be stoked that someone likes yer ugly *** car enough to trace it and use it on there adverti*****t. At least they made it look better than it actuallt does [/ QUOTE ] If you're ever in Seattle make sure to let me know. I've got about oh, I don't know, 15-20 guys who would stand behind me in kicking your nuts up to your chin for talking **** about Keith's car like that. He is one hell of a good guy and built one hell of a cool car with his bare hands from the ground up. Why don't you show us all a picture of your car? What? No car? Car that someone else built? Yeah, that's what I thought. *****.
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] THIS IS ****ING GAY [/ QUOTE ] YES!!! I AGREE- who cares if it yer car, and since it is, you should be stoked that someone likes yer ugly *** car enough to trace it and use it on there adverti*****t. At least they made it look better than it actuallt does [/ QUOTE ] CHOPTOP 50 Lets see what your so proud about? Ugly car? His car is pure hotrod thru and thru, its driven everywhere and I'm sure it would spank anything you could build. To top it all off I have a 100.00 bucks you wouldn't be man enough to say that to Kieths face. [/ QUOTE ] You know what, the car is still ugly, no matter what it's been through. I am building a chopt 1950 Ford tudor sedan with a 350, 9 inch rear, 6.5 chop, full airbags on trailing arms. I don't have to explain myself to anybody- This post has gotten way out of hand anyway. Who cares if your car is on a tool catalog? You know what, if this is what the HAMB is all about, I do not want any part of it. I do apologize for the rude and dumb comments that I made. However, I have not been on my computer to respond to your comments of my quote, as I posted those comments late at night. Oh, I most likely would tell you that your car is hideous to your face, if I was ever unfortunate enough to run into you somewhere. Honestly, I will post what ever I want, so eat **** ***holes!
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] THIS IS ****ING GAY [/ QUOTE ] YES!!! I AGREE- who cares if it yer car, and since it is, you should be stoked that someone likes yer ugly *** car enough to trace it and use it on there adverti*****t. At least they made it look better than it actuallt does [/ QUOTE ] If you're ever in Seattle make sure to let me know. I've got about oh, I don't know, 15-20 guys who would stand behind me in kicking your nuts up to your chin for talking **** about Keith's car like that. He is one hell of a good guy and built one hell of a cool car with his bare hands from the ground up. Why don't you show us all a picture of your car? What? No car? Car that someone else built? Yeah, that's what I thought. *****. [/ QUOTE ] I actually built my entire car myself, including a frame off resto. I have a chopt 1950 Ford tudor sedan with full airbags, 350, 9 inch, I have gone the whole 9 yards as far as building a car goes, so **** off, and I am only 21. What do you drive ***hole?
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] THIS IS ****ING GAY [/ QUOTE ] YES!!! I AGREE- who cares if it yer car, and since it is, you should be stoked that someone likes yer ugly *** car enough to trace it and use it on there adverti*****t. At least they made it look better than it actuallt does [/ QUOTE ] If you're ever in Seattle make sure to let me know. I've got about oh, I don't know, 15-20 guys who would stand behind me in kicking your nuts up to your chin for talking **** about Keith's car like that. He is one hell of a good guy and built one hell of a cool car with his bare hands from the ground up. Why don't you show us all a picture of your car? What? No car? Car that someone else built? Yeah, that's what I thought. *****. [/ QUOTE ] I actually built my entire car myself, including a frame off resto. I have a chopt 1950 Ford tudor sedan with full airbags, 350, 9 inch, I have gone the whole 9 yards as far as building a car goes, so **** off, and I am only 21. What do you drive ***hole? [/ QUOTE ] why oh why do I even respond to this ********? it appears we have an licking gold-chainer in waiting on our hands....the similarities are uncanny, the "my car is THE ****, YOUR car is JUST ****" at***ude is all too familiar....how well would he respond to the same comments about his 50 ford bodied mini-truck? bags are for groceries.... leave Keith's car alone and go yourself... wonder how long til this post gets killed?
chopt50, now that you have mastered the hotrod scene, you might want to start a little work on your MANNERS!! Oh, and wipe that snot off yer nose...........OLDBEET
Ya know, as screwed up as the legal system is in this country, if you contacted the company, they might sue you and end up owning your car. I have seen stranger things happen. By the way, that is a very cool car, a REAL hot rod!!! If that car was at a Goodguys event, for example, it is the one I would be drawn to and keep coming back to look at again & again.
chopt50, come on, you dont mean that. Now this is just getting sloppy. The best thing that came out of this post is those ******* smiley faces! They used a picture of a neet little car. Im sure the artist is a fan and no harm was meant.
Chopt50 or should I call you TOAD from American Graffiti as your signature suggests, you started to make amends then you just couldn't help yourself could you? I for one say ban this punk?
[ QUOTE ] I have gone the whole 9 yards as far as building a car goes, so **** off, and I am only 21. What do you drive ***hole? [/ QUOTE ] Hard to believe you're only 21, with such a great personality and all of you're people skills. The problem here, is that you gave a completely negative AND unsolicited opinion about a fellow HAMBer's ride. He wasn't ASKING what you thought about the car, just the situation. If you didn't have anything useful or constructive to say...you shoulda just kept your big mouth shut.
[ QUOTE ] If you didn't have anything useful or constructive to say...you shoulda just kept your big mouth shut. [/ QUOTE ] AMEN!