Hot Rods Transverse Spring

I am still dealing with the spring issue on my T bucket and just want to see your input. If you remember the last thread, we were talking about the spindles and the brackets that you all pointed out as being really messed up. I fully agreed and after trying to get it straight with no luck, I decided to cut the bolts and brackets out. I have ordered new 5-degree perches. If that doesn't work, I believe I will drill the wishbones and put the mounts thru them. My question is why did the last owner weld and thread the last perches and bracket onto that weld area on the bottom of the wishbones. It is also angled so it didn't fit correctly. Shouldn't the spring be straight across. What am I missing here? Thank you because I am so confused and don't know why.

 

Yeah that’s ****ed. There’s no reason I can see for intentionally having that much mis alignment

 

Is that a bolt welded to a tube on that shackle mount?

 

I think he only did two things wrong: planning and execution.

Don’t let your life hang from a 1/2” bolt in single shear.

 

Thank you because I agree. That is the old spring perch that was threaded into the welded area you see. I put it there to show the way it is messed up. Shouldn't it be fine to grind all the welded area off and then align everything and mount the spring straight across between the two wishbones?

 

What you’re missing is that the bloke that put that together was a muppet. Bin it and do it properly.

 

Not even just single shear but bending on a threaded part of the bolt, which is welded so has lost its heat treatment

 

yup take all the bs off and start over

 

Thank you for all of these replies because when I saw that mess, I got my saw all out and started cutting. Now, after hearing your input I will be grinding all of that weld area off and start with perch.

 

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Something like this would be a better option, I believe. Also available at RJays Speedshop.

 

I have been looking at them also, but don't know if the welder I have is big enough to do the job so I may have to come up with something to be able to get it to a shop with a larger welder. All I have is a Clake 130EN. I son uses it as myself I haven't welded in over 40 years.

 

The welded area on a wishbone is the transition from the forged (solid) end and the oval tube and will be very strong there, so a good place to fit a spring mount, if done properly of course.

As to the alignment of said bung. ***uming it wasn't just an error, maybe it was done before the bone was split without allowing for the alignment change when splitting the bone. Maybe the bones weren't going to be split, but something else changed and the tail chase began? In the original thread there were some funky trunnion to accommodate, but these had their issues. All pure conjecture though!
Those new perches have already rightly been deemed inadequate, but why would they have been made square when an angle is required, and is the stated 5 degrees a measured amount or just a guess to try to work with readily available parts?

And get it properly welded! Whatever it turns out to be!

Chris

 

The new perches are from speedway. Not even sure if I am going to use them and if I do they will surely have to be braced and beefed up I believe. Also have been thinking about drilling thru the wish bones as seen in previous threads on here about wish bones and using a larger perch mount like at least 5/8 " with bracing.

 

I just looked at the wish bones and they do not have a welded transition on them from what I see at all. Usually, you can tell that point, but these are smooth from front to back. Then they are connected by using a ball joint I believe.

 

I bet he welded those perches on and then split the wishbones, which changed the alignment with the spring.

 

You can mock everything up with proper brackets, tack weld them, and take them to a welder friend who has a beefier machine. I did that on my bucket build for most of the structural parts.

 

Yes, I agree that made a lot of sense. Tomorrow I am going to see where I can try and find a welder so when I am ready, I can get it done. Very good advice. Thank you

 

Are there any mobile welding mobs in your area?